Posted on 12/04/2010 7:07:52 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Mash here...to find out what all this is about.. IMHO..
Why is it that nobody seemed to have a problem with this guy leaking classified (I'm assuming that much of it was classified, but I'm not 100% sure) military information about Iraq and Afghanistan . . . but once he began releasing diplomatic correspondence and mentioned that damaging information about one or more major U.S. banks would be forthcoming, you suddenly have his website being hacked and chased off servers all over the world, and the attorney general of the U.S. calling for an investigation?
I don't know if the guy is a hero or a criminal (maybe both?), but I'll tell you something -- he has really touched a nerve with a lot of big-government leftists in government and industry right now. "
The sad reality is it doesn't really matter what the majority of people think whether right or wrong.
Money rules. The most recent bubble to burst is the mortgage security racket. On deck is the student loan bubble (non dis-chargeable in BK). If you don't have a degree don't bother standing in line for the job at the land-fill.
I really feel bad for those who've paid off their mortgages and I further hope they received their ORIGINAL Satisfaction of Mortgage document. The fact is this securitization mess is a ponzi scheme on top of a ponzi scheme.
Florida's nationally unique "Rocket Docket" judges are the pets of the big banks and their "foreclosure mills".
It's sad that everything is about money but it is. The big banks were so eager to make loans (and immediately "securitize" them) they didn't bother with underwriting standards.
Why? Because not only did they insure the loans at the outcome-based value with AIG's Credit Default Swaps, but they also took short positions. In other words they placed bets that the loans would not perform. This created an incentive to make the largest loan possible to borrowers with the least likelihood of paying it back.
The investors (who refuse to be identified lest their tax-exempt REMIC status becomes exposed) have been made whole by the third party credit default swaps, the trusts are closed, and the "servicer" buys the rights to illegally "service" a loan that has been extinguished by the terms specified in the Pooling and Servicing Agreement. Can anyone say "securities fraud"?
What is ironic is the large financial players are now realizing these big banks and their ponzi schemes are being exposed and are shorting the banks.
That means they will make a lot of money and lobby (bribe) the legislature to tear down the banks and their fraud.
Where is the Florida Bar in all of this? Oh, they are busy threatening activist groups who SEE the fraud (crime) that has taken place.
What goes around comes around as they say.
All of a sudden the "rule of law" will become important and other financial institutions will use that "rule of law" to take the money for themselves.
The Wiki uproar did not rev up until rumors started swirling about big banks being exposed. What will be divulged? Emails from bank execs joking about how they've stolen money with the nodding approval of their govt. puppets?
People who don't realize this by now never will.
The pendulum will swing and the predator will become the prey.
Exactly.
I agree with you. As for rants against Dr. Paul let me remind everyone that Ron Paul has been on the forefront of trying to find out what The Fed has been up to and doing all he can for an audit of said Bank as it should be.
The Fed needs to be audited and the truth about their activities, Legal and Illegal need to come to Light.
Unfortunately, "WE RULE" only on paper, and only according to the Constitution.
The reality is Reps and courts continue to ignore the consent of the Serfs. Rectifying the problem maybe to wind up a bit...messy.
That is ok with me. Everytime I bake a cake my wife calls the local tv station to report a tornado touched down in our kitchen. But the end result is a beautiful thing...
I agree. Originally the press was supposed to be part of the checks and balances. Honest reporting was to keep government from getting out of hand. We all know how that has worked out, with the press protecting government corruption. There is no way we can know the whole truth of who is behind all this and what the purposes are, but we have to ask ourselves, in the long run isn’t it better that evil and incompetence are revealed? It isn’t only US secrets that have been told.
Every little thing from this day forward must be viewed with the most extreme suspicion and cynicism.
THIS WikiLeaks incident represents another one of those damn (ahem) "crisis."
I can’t take Drudge seriously when he uses Alex Jones as his source.
Bank Of America Sets Up Swat Team To Combat Wikileaks
In my mind - secrets to protect troop placemens and whereabouts and confidential names of CIA agents etc etc, fine keep those secrets.
Secrets to conceal lies, hypocrisy, theft, graft, etc -sorry - I am happy with all the exposure and leaks.
If Obama assumed the authority to kill people on a whim, you can bet that Pelosi would feel justified in having her own separate hit squad too.
How far down the path of having an unaccountable government would you go? Locking up people indefinitely without a trial if they would try to expose assassinations done just for political purposes? Putting a bullet in the back of their heads just on suspicion? Doing away with elections to avoid the risk of a subsequent administration exposing unjustified assassinations?
I understand the stigma, but if none of the major "news" outlets will touch a story or revelation, than what?
Remember when the Enquirer broke the Edwards Baby/Affair story? TRUE. People poo-pooed it. The MSM refused to touch it.
How do we discount any source at this point when the alphabet networks work as an obvious propaganda/disinformation outlet?
Makes you wonder (and realize) who exactly controls/owns Interpol.
We should ALL hope and pray that the info exposing BoA gets splattered across the headlines.
Excellent observations and logic.
Secrets to conceal lies, hypocrisy, theft, graft, etc -sorry - I am happy with all the exposure and leaks
One gets the sneaky suspicion that it's not so much the former (if at all), but the latter that's the case.
Indeed. That we know what The Bernanke did with the last $3Trillion at all is because of language that Paul insisted on in the financial reform bill that passed, however watered down it was from his true intent of a a full audit.
It's our money. Why can't we have an audit? Why shouldn't we.
Exactly.
If we are being lied to, stolen from, deceived, and harmed by what the ovt is doing - as a citizen and taxpayer - we have a right to know it.
“I don’t know why Freepers are so hell-bent on painting this WikiLeaks guy in a negative light. The more I read about what has been leaked, the more I think he sounds like “Matt Drudge on Steroids” in many ways.
Heck — just this morning there were several items posted here on FreeRepublic about WikiLeaks material that exposes the U.S. role in pushing global warming bullsh!t. Who can possible argue with someone who exposes that?”
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Most of what was uncovered should have come as no surprise to any sentient being, American or otherwise.
Why Freepers would favor secrecy for the bloated, tyrannical government that hopes to enslave us in a global governance nightmare is beyond me.
My only complaint about the guy is that he didn’t do more, didn’t expose the workings of other international players, other governments, NGOs, the UN, corporate, financial, religious, academic and media behemoths in bed with the political and regulatory appartchiks in our own out of control tyranny.
They aim to enslave us - I, for one, would like to know all I can about what they think and what they’re doing. These leaks did not make me distrust my government - they themselves did that long ago, and I suspect that’s the case for others in the US and around the world as well. They did not put anyone or anything in danger anymore than these clowns already do.
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