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Dialog on campus guns helps clear up perceptions
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 3 December, 2010 | David Codrea

Posted on 12/04/2010 4:22:45 AM PST by marktwain

“Dr. Bill Holda, president of Kilgore College in Kilgore, TX, will have to do some fast backpedaling if he’s to have any hope of outrunning his recent comments about the 1991 massacre at a Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen, TX—the second deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, surpassed only by the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre,” the email from Students for Concealed Carry on Campus began.

Dr. Holda recently angered both survivors of the shooting and concealed carry advocates by claiming that some of the victims of the massacre (which became a rallying cry for supporters of lawful self-defense) actually shot each other.

Angered is an understatement, as the claim was simply wrong: The Luby’s incident predated “legal” concealed carry in Texas. I was set to jump on this myself and go into full Larry Hincker engagement mode on the guy, but I had other irons in the fire, and by the time I’d cleared my plate, several developments had occurred:

Knoxville Gun Rights Examiner Liston Matthews had already covered the story.

Likewise, St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner Kurt Hofmann weighed in.

Dr. Holda admitted he was incorrect, albeit that did not change his basic opinion that campus carry was “ill conceived and a really bad decision.” Couched that way, his concession hardly mollified worked-up gun owners.

Enter Jack Burch, CEO of Hill Country Shooting Sports Center in Kerrville, Texas. Burch approached Holda with courtesy and reason, and was responded to in kind. They conducted a conversation via email, and he obtained Dr. Holda’s permission to share his thoughts with a wider audience.

To that end, Mr. Burch is allowing me to share it with Gun Rights Examiner readers.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; codrea; examiner; sccc; tx
Honest liberals can be persuaded to the truth. Many people have been misled by the lies of the left. Often, people become angry when they learn that they have been lied to.
1 posted on 12/04/2010 4:22:51 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Solution... tree/rope/swing.

LLS


2 posted on 12/04/2010 4:59:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: marktwain

Direct to the e-mail exchange document:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/44592324/Burch-Holda


3 posted on 12/04/2010 5:14:04 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: marktwain
Honest liberals can be persuaded to the truth

That phrase is golden, can be used for lots of stuff in future FR postings.

4 posted on 12/04/2010 6:11:21 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best ki,nd of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: marktwain

Utah colleges are living proof that letting honest people arm themselves works.


5 posted on 12/04/2010 6:29:09 AM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican.)
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To: urtax$@work

Don’t get too excited. I don’t think you will use it much.


6 posted on 12/04/2010 6:57:26 AM PST by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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To: marktwain
Marxist academics (but then, I repeat myself) always just make stuff up that fits their template.

They consider it very rude when you point out the grotesquely obvious nature of their lies.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

7 posted on 12/04/2010 8:18:36 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Weird. I get to this ... "Personally, I support an individual's right to carry a concealed handgun.  I believe it is ill advised in ourenvironment.  If it is so universally safe, why did both the Driver bill and the Simpson bill contain the"... and the text just stops.

8 posted on 12/04/2010 2:39:27 PM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: zeugma

Here is a better explanation of how the dufus continued to step-in-it, he is either an idiot or a liar.

“Kilgore College President Continues His Assault on Campus Carry”

http://www.campuscarry.com/2010/11/23/kilgore-college-president-continues-his-assault-on-campus-carry/


9 posted on 12/04/2010 7:00:48 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: zeugma

And he probably does not want to discuss the e-mail exchange because it damaged him so badly.


10 posted on 12/04/2010 7:02:27 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: zeugma; Texas Fossil

>Weird. I get to this ... “Personally, I support an individual’s right to carry a concealed handgun. I believe it is ill advised in our environment.
>If it is so universally safe, why did both the Driver bill and the Simpson bill contain the”... and the text just stops.

There was a page-break there; here’s what it says:

“If it is so universally safe, why did both the Driver bill and the Simpson bill contain the exemption for athletic events? Why not allow them at these events also? Is it a product of athletics or the size of the crowd? If the size of the crowd, what about commencement exercises at the football field with 5,000 attendees?”


11 posted on 12/05/2010 10:17:12 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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