Posted on 12/03/2010 1:45:08 PM PST by Red Steel
Democrats hoping to move forward with legislation other than tax cuts shouldn't look to centrist Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) to break the logjam.
Collins said again on Friday that, while she would vote with Democrats to end the military's "Don't ask, don't tell" policy, she wouldn't do so until a debate over tax cuts has been resolved.
"Once the tax issue is resolved, I have made it clear that if the Majority Leader brings the Defense Authorization bill to the floor with sufficient time allowed for debate and amendments, I would vote to proceed to the bill," she said in a statement.
The statement is a sign that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's (Ky.) Republican conference hasn't fractured in its insistence that the expiring tax cuts be dealt with prior to action on any other legislative business.
All 42 Senate Republicans wrote Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to inform him that the GOP wouldn't allow any other issues to move before tax cuts during the lame-duck session. That includes the defense authorization bill, to which an amendment is attached that would do away with the military's prohibition on openly gay and lesbian members.
That bill appears to have the 60 votes necessary to proceed through the Senate — but not until tax cuts are addressed.
Reid will convene a rare Saturday session tomorrow to vote on tax cuts, but on a version that Republicans are expected to oppose. Democrats will bring two bills to the floor: one that would extend all tax cuts for those making less than $250,000 and another measure meant as a compromise, which would extend tax cuts for all making less than $1 million.
Makes perfect sense. If the R’s allow the repeal of DADT in xchange for Tax Rates staying the same that is the end of the Republican Party. What don’t you understand? Are you stupid?
These politicians make me sick. They don’t act on what’s in the country’s interest, they act according to what interest group screams the loudest. A government like that can’t help but end badly.
Don’t sexual harassment laws in the workplace cover any issues homosexuals have? You can’t curse at work, you can’t touch anyone at work, you sure can’t come on to anyone at work. So what’s the difference?????
You bet they are. They stink on ice. (Mel Brooks).
/johnny
How do you explain me having go into the clean linen closet and separate the waitresses from the swarthy bus-boys with a crowbar?
There's lots of dipping pens in office ink still going on.
/johnny
The difference? The difference is government requiring employers to hire self identified sexual harassers -thats the difference!
Do you get it? Claiming sexual harassment laws will take care of any problems is but a smokescreen providing cover for the very problem being imposed in the first place...
For example -lets look at pedophiles -the laws against pedophiles will take care of any pedophilia -right? So why not force child care facilities to hire self identified sex perverts? Make sense to you?
What about self identified homosexuals attracted to the same sex -why not put them in close quarters with normal people. Why not put males and females in barracks together -sharing facilities? Who needs privacy? Privacy is only important when it comes to abortion -right?
So much wrong with the use of that term here...
Haven’t they always been? ;-)
The democrat infighting continues.
This is good news. She's honoring her party's commitments, at least in the area of fiscal responsibility.
This strengthens the GOP hand through the rest of the lame duck session and into next year.
What about Jim Webb? He was firmly against it as late as May of this year. I haven't seen anything that says he's changed his mind.
"Virginia Senator Jim Webb praised the survey, stating, "It's a 340 page report, 160,000 respondents and most importantly this was done without politicizing the men and women in uniform which is vitally important in our society." "
Two key senators praised the Pentagon report on Thursday. Sen. Jim Webb (Va.), the only Democrat on Armed Services to vote against the repeal provision when the panel wrote the 2011 defense authorization bill, called it "an incredible piece of work." While not expressing a clear position, Webb also said the report is "probably the most crucial piece of information that we have in terms of really objectively moving forward.”
And from liberal website FireDogLake.com -
"Congratulations to Senator James Webb (D-Va) for raising the human element during today’s hearings, largely missing and overlooked by all participants:"
"Indeed, when Senator James Webb today asked the Service Chiefs a simple question about the gay human beings impacted by this discriminatory policy, everyone at the hearing acted a bit startled.
Webb asked:
What should we do with gay patriotic Americans who have already served our country for years, and want to lead free and open lives? Everyone looked uncomfortable, as if Webb had gone way off topic."
Webb like last time may ultimately vote against repealing DADT, but he seems a little squishy.
So repealing DADT requires homosexual affirmative action?
I guess the survey didn’t get past the cozy questions about how people “ffffeeeeeeellllll” about working with a flaming homosexual.
The question is what REPLACES DADT? They didn’t go that far yet and won’t because what replaces DADT is far worse for natural heterosexuals, and if there is no DADT then SOMETHING has to be put in place.
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"UPDATE: This can’t be good news.
The White House called a meeting Friday afternoon to assure gay rights advocates that there’s no deal for President Barack Obama to sidetrack the effort to dismantle the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, even though time is quickly winding down in the lame-duck Congress, sources familiar with the session said.
About a dozen gay rights activists were summoned to the session, which lasted just over an hour and occurred in one of the federally-owned buildings facing Lafayette Park across from the White House, according to a participant.
Oh, jeebus:
A source said the White House staffers at the session, who included Office of Public Engagement director Tina Tchen, her deputy Brian Bond, and legislative affairs aide Chris Kang, told repeal advocates that Senate action on the defense bill containing language repealing “don’t ask” might not come next week in part because of a judicial impeachment trial." "
DADT Repeal Hopes -- FadeFiredogLake.com
A Senate judicial impeachment trial that will eat some time too?
If Collins had not required the ten year trigger back in 2001, we wouldn’t be in this mess now.
Some people just can’t control themselves, can they? Way back when I was a waitress at a supper club, one slow evening I went looking for the cook to fill an order, and he and one of the other waitresses were making use of an empty banquet room. Yeesh. Didn’t take me long to leave that job, because the owner thought it was hilarious.
The survey did not even touch on the subject of "should DADT" be repealed. Just as it was with the leftists and is with the leftists a forgone conclusion that homosexual sex must be accepted by society as normal and imposed upon society for the sake of diversity and orifice justice -- such as it is with this window dressing survey and the opinionated subjective "report" and findings premised upon its existence alone regardless any facts.
It is all propaganda...
They use a survey they wrote that did not ask any questions to answers they already determined as evidence that their answers are what the troops want -HOGWASH!!!
The survey and its results are nothing more than lining for a litter box at best and irrelevant to the debate which revolves around the question: are disordered individuals that are predisposed to and choose to engage in homosexual sex people that are morally upright? Will others trust and want to serve in intimate situations, in close proximity to these homosexual sex practitioners?
My answer to the question not asked is and would be no -hell no!
At best this survey reflects what patriots our service men are -that even if the leftists imposed homosexual sex perverts upon their ranks they would still do their duty defending the country the leftists wish to destroy and the God the leftists spit on...
Sorry to inject some reality into your fantasyland but homosexuals are already serving in close quarters and have been under DADT and, actually, well before.
Do you complain about communal gym showers in public high schools? That's even worse and given the ages and maturity levels should not be allowed.
There are only two equitable solutions to DADT: return to no service for homosexuals (not going to happen) or allow open service where everyone knows who is attracted to what and deals with it like reasonable adults. Stop thinking so little of our fighting men and women.
LOL --did my posting(s) stir something inside you? Are you here to promote orifice diversity or orientation justice?
How about I inject some reality into your delusional diatribe?
How exactly do these "homosexuals" hide the fact that they are homosexuals IF homosexuality is a state of being?
Why would you expect others to be concerned about someones disorder when they are secretly hiding their disorder?
Finally, why would "unmasking" a disordered individual suddenly make the disorder he/she engages in and promotes okay? e.g. Oh look dear -the secret goat sex practitioner has been identified -I am so happy now -sex with goats is now good stuff...
Do you complain about communal gym showers in public high schools? That's even worse and given the ages and maturity levels should not be allowed.
Did I have to shower with the opposite sex? NO. Did I have to shower with homosexuals? NO. Would I? NO...
Did some homosexual possible shower with me and get his thrills -Maybe, why should I care about what I know nothing about?
Why do you think that a mentally disordered and morally devoid individual who remains hidden is any less disordered if identified? Why should I be forced to accept a mentally disordered and morally devoid individual into my "space"? It should remain my choice...
There are only two equitable solutions to DADT: return to no service for homosexuals (not going to happen) or allow open service where everyone knows who is attracted to what and deals with it like reasonable adults. Stop thinking so little of our fighting men and women.
I am not worried about equity for homosexual sex or rise that promote it -it is a sick disorder that is socially and individually destructive... Sending it back to the dark hole it came from and those that promote it back to their closets would suit me just fine...
I do not need to know about the orifice diversity they enjoy and would be quite happy to never hear about it again...
You seem to think homosexual sex is dandy or at best a non issue? Why do wish you promote it as normal or irrelevant rather than destructive?
Homosexual sex perverts will never serve openly in the military...
The progressive leftists time on stage is about up -back the closets they will go...
Many military leaders are openly stating they’re against it, although some of them are supporting it.
I wonder how effective an all-homo military will work out. I don’t forsee too many people volunteering knowing they’re going to be showering with and sleeping next to homos. Most importantly, being asked to depend on one of them for their life will most likely be too much to ask of a normal, red-blooded American.
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