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Secession ball stirs controversy
The SunNews.com ^ | 12-3-2010 | Robert Behre Charleston Post

Posted on 12/03/2010 4:39:40 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo

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To: TheBigIf
Your instance hardly qualifies as ‘many’ republicans.

Yeah, you're right. Half the Indiana state legislature, all of them Republicans, plus the governor, plus every other statewide office, plus all 13 congressional seats from the state. Hardly anyone.

There were progressive republicans.

Gee, you think? Teddy Roosevelt, anyone?

The mainstay of the KKK was always as a terrorist wing of the democrat party and is well known for targeting and murdering republicans.

Only in its Reconstruction iteration. Later Klans had other agendas. The 1920s Midwestern Klan was more concerned with Catholics, Jews and immigrants.

761 posted on 12/14/2010 10:02:18 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Idabilly

Your post was speaking of German-American immigrants and a German movement from 1848. Your first post clearly spoke of the 48ers desire to defend ‘liberty’. That is hardly a desire to expand government. Your reference to Hitler is not backed up by anything except your own propaganda.


762 posted on 12/14/2010 10:04:25 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
Look at the names of the confederate democrat KKK leaders: “Cyclops,” “Wizard,” “Grand Dragon.” The Imperial Wizard meets with “klaverns,” which sounds a lot like “covens.”

You should quit posting. You're embarrassing your brothers in The Coven.

BTW, does your mommy know that you're cutting school and spending all day posting on internet sites?

763 posted on 12/14/2010 10:06:12 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I didn’t say it was ‘hardly anyone’. I simply do not agree with the statement ‘many republicans’ being KKK. I do not see how your example shows it to be ‘many republicans either. The majority of KKK support was entirely democrats during all of its stages and their targets were republicans.


764 posted on 12/14/2010 10:07:44 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: cowboyway

Did you make this insult up yourself. Pathetic.


765 posted on 12/14/2010 10:09:02 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf; Bubba Ho-Tep; rockrr; wardaddy

TheBigIf, for your info - I would not qualify ( even if I wanted ) for Klan membership. I’m also about sick of talking about it. You see, my Wife is a good part Cherokee and that wouldn’t qualify for the Klan’s 1/16 rule. So in other words, they would consider my children not racially pure.


766 posted on 12/14/2010 10:09:36 AM PST by Idabilly ("I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. ...)
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To: cowboyway
BTW, thanks for keeping me in your tagline: it means I'm always on your mind.

It's good that you learned your name pokie. Now heel you mutt!

767 posted on 12/14/2010 10:11:29 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Idabilly

Why are you defending yourself against something that you were never accused of? I am simply stating that the KKK was founded by the Confederate democrats and then taken up by them again later when they were known as the Progressive democrats.


768 posted on 12/14/2010 10:11:53 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: rockrr

BTW, who are you, punkrr? You’ve claimed to have been born and raised in at least two different Southern states and you once posted a picture of your ‘back yard’ which turned out to be a snagged photo from Google Images.


769 posted on 12/14/2010 10:17:51 AM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway

Say please.


770 posted on 12/14/2010 10:26:10 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Idabilly
The book Lincoln Uber Alles has a chapter on the effect of the 48ers on the election. Without the German vote, it is estimated that Lincoln would have lost the 1860 election in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, and Wisconsin. Vote estimates by state are given on page 93 of the hardback copy of Lincoln Uber Alles.

Wikipea has an interesting map of US ancestries by county: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.svg. German ancestry predominates in the North, and "American" and black predominate in the South. I find that I've lived in two black counties, two Hispanic counties, three German counties, one English county, one Italian county, and two Irish counties.

771 posted on 12/14/2010 10:35:32 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: TheBigIf

Fine, if you’re that intent on holding to your simplistic version of history, in spite of evidence to the contrary, I’m not going to waste my time talking you out of it.


772 posted on 12/14/2010 10:50:48 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

So if I don’t agree with you then it is a waste of time?

The fact still remains that the KKK was a terrorist wing of the democrat party and they targeted republicans.

As with any movement or human trait you will never have an absolute tie between just one group and another so of course there have been republicans that have been racist or have been members of the KKK. Just as today we have liberal republicans as well, the lines get blurred sometimes and that is even used as a stradegy of democrats.

But you haven’t, imo, given evidence to make the statement ‘there were many republicans in the KKK’ true. There were not ‘many republicans’ in the KKK and the fact is that republicans were targets of the KKK.


773 posted on 12/14/2010 11:03:36 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: rustbucket

Interesting map. I grew up in a central Illinois town with a huge German-descended community who arrived in the 1840s when the area was being settled. Another large community was white southerners who came up during the Depression for industrial jobs in the area. The joke (which they tell) is that they were on their way to Chicago but their cars broke down. My family was Italians who came to work the coal mines in the 1910s and lived in company houses on the hill outside of town, next to the mines.


774 posted on 12/14/2010 11:05:27 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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775 posted on 12/14/2010 11:06:02 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

See what we put up with!


776 posted on 12/14/2010 11:10:34 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: wardaddy; Idabilly

Lorens SC 2008, outside the Redneck shop.

777 posted on 12/14/2010 11:11:28 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: central_va

Hey, I was just simply minding my own business and didn’t even know that the debate was still going on in this thread but then got pulled into it this morning. Then of course I saw your ridiculous ‘Coven’ remark again about those who support the United States and simply wanted to remind you again that it is your beloved Confederate democrats who formed a coven or klavern.


778 posted on 12/14/2010 11:14:00 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: mac_truck

"I've always loved you."

779 posted on 12/14/2010 11:14:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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To: TheBigIf
simply wanted to remind you again that it is your beloved Confederate democrats who formed a coven or klavern.

Has nothing to do with the Civil War I. We are not discussing the Klan. The Klan is nothing but a bunch of racist fools, not worth discussing.

780 posted on 12/14/2010 11:16:58 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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