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To: bigbob

From a previous post about all this:

I have seen a lot of missile launches, this was one. Why not the US shooting a warning shot across the bow of a foreign sub. Not to blow it up but to say I know you’re there...go away. This kind of saber rattling has been going on for many years. And to admit to it brings embarrassment to the foreign power, we don’t want to do that, we test the waters of foreign Gov.’s all the time and so do they -—whoever it was.


Joe, I agree with your analysis. Anybody who has any experience with missile launches confirms that this was indeed a missile. Anyone who thinks it’s a jet contrail is looking for the most “mainstream” answer, not the most likely. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2qKMchcgzk

First, some of the footage clearly shows bright orange flame which, in my mind, makes it hard to believe it’s a jet contrail.

Second, they interviewed Robert Ellsworth, a former congressman from the state of Kansas, Ambassador to NATO (1969- 71), Assistant Secretary of Defense (1974-75) and Deputy Secretary of Defense (1975-77). Without any equivocation in his voice, at the 39 second mark in the video, he flat out says, “It is a big missile”.

In my mind, it’s obviously a government missile and my belief is that it was launched from a Chinese submarine. In the past, they have surprised American warships by immersing within eyesight without being detected beforehand. An action like this is right down the alley of the Chinese.


http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-san-francisco/expert-says-no-doubt-it-was-a-missile-off-the-california-coast#comments


164 posted on 12/03/2010 1:53:47 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

And again:

*** “I’ve spent 30 years at Kennedy Space Center and at Cape Canaveral and I’ve watched more shuttle and expendable launches that you can imagine.!!!

The contrail in question was not a fixed wing aircraft. Contrails begin to evaporate fairly soon after generation.

Additionally, the exhaust trail in question has a shape, depth, density, and opacity that is totally alien to contrails.

Ladies/Gents, that is the exhaust trail of a solid propellant rocket; not a liquid fuelled rocket or aircraft contrail - SOLID PROPELLANT ROCKET.

Now, who launched it is another question.”

Well said

From someone who would know

Now get yer dopey that’s-a-contrailer anti flame suit on ...

———Okay Guys !!!!!!!!!!

The Chris Baker Show - right now on AM 950 KPRC in houston. He just said that the scuttle butt going around the pentagon - privately - is that this was a missile launched from “Chinese territory” in protest of the US participating in the military exercises in the Yellow Sea.

——————(CBS) A mysterious missile launch off the southern California coast was caught by CBS affiliate KCBS’s cameras Monday night, and officials are staying tight-lipped over the nature of the projectile.

CBS station KFMB put in calls to the Navy and Air Force Monday night about the striking launch off the coast of Los Angeles, which was easily visible from the coast, but the military has said nothing about the launch.

KFMB showed video of the apparent missile to former U.S. Ambassador to NATO Robert Ellsworth, who is also a former Deputy Secretary of Defense, to get his thoughts.

Scroll down for KFMB video showing the launch.

“It’s spectacular… It takes people’s breath away,” said Ellsworth, calling the projectile, “a big missile”.

“Magnificent images were captured by the KCBS news helicopter in L.A. around sunset Monday evening. The location of the missile was about 35 miles out to sea, west of L.A. and north of Catalina Island.|

...

[link to www.cbsnews.com]


167 posted on 12/03/2010 1:57:21 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
And what really proves the case:

I worked at White Sands Missile Range for 16 years and my father was a rocket engineer. There is no question.

Yes, it is a missile.

You can see the spiraling in the trail, then you can see the correction in the trajectory and the spin gets tighter and the trail quits spiraling.

There was a wobble in the spiral and it was corrected.

I worked at White Sands Missile Range for 16 years and my father was a rocket engineer.

There is no question.

CASE CLOSED

169 posted on 12/03/2010 2:14:04 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
" If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck."

Duck.


183 posted on 12/03/2010 12:36:31 PM PST by TXnMA (You don't have to be a California Condor expert to recognize a mockingbird when it sings...)
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