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To: WilliamHouston

No, I don’t support Amnesty, but any attempt to deport 11 million illegals would result in mass chaos. I say give them defacto citizenship. Give them a social security number, they’ll pay taxes & their rights will be protected. However, because they broke federal & state law, deny their right to vote. A small penalty to pay for not being charged or deported. If they complain, then they should have have just applied for citizenship in the first place. Then I say get democrats to agree to an extremely tight border security plan. Anyone who tries to illegally enter will be immediately jailed and will never be eligible to live in the US. Finally, set a yearly legal immigration limit of 10,000. Much better than the million streaming across our border annually.


174 posted on 12/02/2010 2:06:29 PM PST by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: xuberalles

We already deport about 500,000 a year under Obama, right? Why can’t we deport them all? A competant administration could deport at least a million a year.

Note: Guiterrez is threatening mass chaos IF THEY DON’T GET the DREAM Act.


183 posted on 12/02/2010 2:13:28 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: xuberalles
No, I don’t support Amnesty, but any attempt to deport 11 million illegals would result in mass chaos. I say give them defacto citizenship.

The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, and Arizona proving that it does.

I say give them defacto citizenship. Give them a social security number, they’ll pay taxes & their rights will be protected. However, because they broke federal & state law, deny their right to vote. A small penalty to pay for not being charged or deported. If they complain, then they should have have just applied for citizenship in the first place.

That is amnesty. Robert Rector of The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty alone would be $2.6 trillion just for the entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

Finally, set a yearly legal immigration limit of 10,000. Much better than the million streaming across our border annually.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest level in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.977% (2010 estimate), principally due to immigration.

189 posted on 12/02/2010 2:17:17 PM PST by kabar
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