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To: Venturer
Are they as Passe’ as the WW2 Battleship. I suppose it will take a war to find out. Hopefully we never have to.

Aircraft carriers are extremely tough. No aircraft carriers were sunk in the Pacific during WWII, the were burned and scuttled, but the battle damage itself didn't sink them. They can be repaired and reused if they can get a tow to port. Also a carrier is always surrounded by destroyers.

Without air power there is no navy. You're very uniformed, get a clue.

20 posted on 12/02/2010 6:07:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Hmmm Isn’t that what the Battleship Navy said right before WW2 ?

Of course I hope you are right.

I hate to think that 5,700 men a 4.5 Billion dollar ship,with 80 aircraft and 3.5 million gallons of aircraft fuel could be sunk with one drone fired missile or one Cruise type missile.

I do realise that the new weapons on escorting ships are rapid fire and deadly
I also realise that other powers in this world have deadly weapons also.

I also realise that an undetected Chinese Submarine came up next to one of our Carriers in 2007

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/10/chinese-sub-pops-up-in-the-midst-of-a-us-carrier-battle-group/

I know I am woefully uniformed as you say, but I know it only takes one shot to get through in the wrong place and we lose a helluva lot of assets.


24 posted on 12/02/2010 6:44:52 AM PST by Venturer
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To: central_va
No aircraft carriers were sunk in the Pacific during WWII

Hmmmm ...

1) IJN Kaga was attacked by US aircraft, bombed and set on fire, sank when on board fuel and ammo supplies exploded. She was NOT scuttled.

2) IJN Soryu was attacked by US aircraft, bombed and set on fire, sank when on board fuel and ammo supplies exploded. She was NOT scuttled.

3) IJN Shokaku was torpedoed and sunk by USS Cavalla.

4) IJN Zuikaku received multiple aerial bomb and torpedo hits, and was sunk.

5) IJN Unryu was torpedoed and sunk by USS Redfish.

6) IJN Shinano was torpedoed and sunk by USS Archerfish. In fairness, Shinano was not complete and was undermanned at the time.

7) IJN Ryujo was sunk by aerial bombardment.

8) IJN Chitose was sunk by aerial bombardment.

9) IJN Chiyoda was sunk by a combination of aerial bombardment and naval gunfire.

I won't bother with the IJN escort carriers, which were mainly merchant hulls with flight decks.

10) USS Yorkown disabled by aerial bombardment, torpedoed and sunk by I-168 while under tow.

Again, I'll leave off the escort carriers; they just weren't built to survive like the fleet carriers.

The Brits lost two or three, but not in the Pacific so I guess they don't count.

34 posted on 12/02/2010 8:10:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: central_va
No aircraft carriers were sunk in the Pacific during WWII, the were burned and scuttled, but the battle damage itself didn't sink them.

My career Navy father was a member of the old Yorktown swim team and he may have had some disagreement with the fine points of your statement.

36 posted on 12/02/2010 8:16:24 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: central_va
Also a carrier is always surrounded by destroyers.

Were you really on a carrier?

51 posted on 12/02/2010 9:50:45 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: central_va
No aircraft carriers were sunk in the Pacific during WWII, the were burned and scuttled, but the battle damage itself didn't sink them.
I'm going to rule out the CVEs and other converted merchantment here and look at Fleet Carriers.
The HMS Ark Royal and HMS Eagle were torpedoed by UBoats and sunk. HMS Glorious was destroyed by German battlecruisers (the only fleet carrier to do so). HMS Hermes was sunk by Japanese naval aircraft. USS Wasp (CV-7)was sunk by a Japanese submarine. About a half dozen Japanese carriers were sunk outright by American planes our submarines including the fleet carriers Taiho, Zuikaku, and Shōkaku.
I'm sure I could find more. I'm sure you were thinking of the USS Lexington, USS Yorktown, and USS Hornet in 1942.
79 posted on 12/06/2010 2:49:43 AM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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