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“Gamechanger” weapon now deployed in Afghanistan (Is the XM-25 the Taliban’s worst nightmare?)
Hotair ^ | 12/01/2010 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/01/2010 8:59:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The Academy Award-winning film The Hurt Locker has a particularly memorable scene involving a standoff between an American sharpshooter and an Iraqi insurgent, where both have each other pinned down behind cover. The American sharpshooter wins the standoff — but doesn’t realize it for hours, only moving after it becomes clear that the insurgent died from a well-aimed shot earlier in the day. Imagine the same scene, but with a weapon that can actually find a target behind cover and detonate without air or artillery support, and what that would mean for US forces engaged in urban or guerilla warfare.

Actually, we don’t have to imagine it. The XM-25 has been deployed to Afghanistan, where infantry units call it a “gamechanger“:

It looks and acts like something best left in the hands of Sylvester Stallone’s “Rambo,” but this latest dream weapon is real — and the US Army sees it becoming the Taliban’s worst nightmare.

The Pentagon has rolled out prototypes of its first-ever programmable “smart” grenade launcher, a shoulder-fired weapon that uses microchipped ammunition to target and kill the enemy, even when the enemy is hidden behind walls or other cover.

After years of development, the XM25 Counter Defilade Target Engagement System, about the size of a regular rifle, has now been deployed to US units on the battlefields of Afghanistan, where the Army expects it to be a “game-changer” in its counterinsurgencyoperations.

“For well over a week, it’s been actively on patrols, and in various combat outposts in areas that are hot,” said Lieutenant Colonel Chris Lehner, program manager for the XM25.

CNN reported on the weapon almost a year ago, when the Pentagon still had it in tests. Watch this video report from former CNN reporter Rick Sanchez to get an idea of what this weapon can do, both for US forces and for innocent civilians in the immediate area of gunfire:

This report worries about the problem of the weapon falling into the wrong hands, but that’s more or less the problem with all new weapons systems. As soon as they get deployed, they will fall into enemy hands when the enemy manages to win a skirmish and capture one or more of them. A bigger problem will be the knock-offs created by other nations once they learn the design. Eventually, the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, and others will have their own versions and put them up for sale, most likely as a result of US arms sales to our allies, and then the weapons will be available to terrorists and “freedom fighters” in every corner of the world. The only way to prevent that is to stop designing weapons systems, which is hardly realistic.

The larger problem will be the adaptations this forces onto the Taliban in Afghanistan and other such insurgencies in future wars. This makes a stand-up fight even more suicidal than it is now. Instead of being able to hit forces under cover at 500 yards, there simply won’t be any significant targets at all. The enemy will likely resort to IEDs almost exclusively, with an occasional and relatively massive frontal assault on smaller fortifications to attempt to hold ground. That will degrade the Taliban’s ability to control territory, but in the end perhaps save more of their fighters from certain death and extend their ability to fight in a much more limited fashion.

With some luck, the sheer hopelessness of an IED war will convince most of the Taliban fighters to lay down their arms before an XM-25 round finds their rock first. It’s a great weapon and a gamechanger, but it may not be a war-ender.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bloggers; gamechanger; taliban; xm25
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1 posted on 12/01/2010 8:59:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If everything about this new weapon is true, it should never be put in the hands of anyone other than US Military. In other words, this weapon should never be sold outside the United States.........to anyone, friend or foe.


2 posted on 12/01/2010 9:02:25 AM PST by RC2
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To: SeekAndFind

On my Christmas list!!!!!


3 posted on 12/01/2010 9:04:01 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635597/posts
4 posted on 12/01/2010 9:04:26 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: RC2

The ammo is the key. They can get a gun, but it won’t work without the ammo.


5 posted on 12/01/2010 9:11:56 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

Don’t sell any part of it to anyone. Nada, nothing. It should stay here.


6 posted on 12/01/2010 9:13:34 AM PST by RC2
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To: SeekAndFind

Excellent. Until as one commenter says, wikileaks publishes plans showing the Taliban how to build their own....


7 posted on 12/01/2010 9:14:33 AM PST by bigbob (.)
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To: RC2

Within a year or so there will be other manufacturers making munition delivery systems doing similar things. This is not super-high tech.


8 posted on 12/01/2010 9:15:36 AM PST by bvw
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To: RC2

This looks to me like an expensive boondoggle. It may tip the odds a bit, but I’m guessing it’s not quite the game changer they’re making it out to be.


9 posted on 12/01/2010 9:16:08 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: bigbob

Chinese will build one at a tenth the cost and sell it
to whomever. This will be a gamechanger for about a year,
until loincloth-wearing tribesmen in Sudan have them.


10 posted on 12/01/2010 9:24:21 AM PST by rahbert
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To: Oberon

A “game changer” like the Me262, V2, King Tiger....

Seems some madman was convinced that each one of those was a “game changer,” and he had all of them.


11 posted on 12/01/2010 9:25:32 AM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: SC_Pete
The ammo is the key. They can get a gun, but it won’t work without the ammo.

And the ammo costs $200 a round. The poor GIs are going to have to fill out forms in triplicate every time they empty the magazine.

As for the weapon in the hands of our enemies I'm not too worried. It doesn't fit their fighting style. The Taliban likes cheap weapons that can be handled by illiterate goat herders. An AK-47 and a suicide vest are about all their level of training will allow. And they can put a platoon of those marginally trained jihadi with AK-47s in the field for the cost of one of these things and magazine full of grenades. This kind of weapon only makes sense to army's who consider the lives of their soldiers valuable. Also it's main advantage, avoiding collateral damage, would never occur to anyone but the US and Western Europeans. The Chinese don't care about collateral damage, and the Taliban and AlQueda want to cause as much of it as possible.
12 posted on 12/01/2010 9:26:43 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: RC2

I wasn’t suggesting that we sell the gun. What I meant was the enemy might get hold of one on the battlefield or through theft of some sort. But they still have nothing, unless they have the ammo. The high technology is in the smart projectile, not the gun.


13 posted on 12/01/2010 9:26:53 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: GonzoGOP

What I meant was the high technology is in the smart projectile. They could steal a gun or get one on the battlefield—but they can’t reproduce the ammo. At least yet.


14 posted on 12/01/2010 9:29:18 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SeekAndFind

And why is the MEDIA telling everyone in the world this?


15 posted on 12/01/2010 9:29:55 AM PST by crazydad
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To: SC_Pete

I understand what you meant. I just get tired of us selling our top weapons to others and then they get turned on us. It’s my understanding that these weapons cost us $35,000.00 apiece. Is this true and is it worth it?


16 posted on 12/01/2010 9:31:26 AM PST by RC2
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To: crazydad

“And why is the MEDIA telling everyone in the world this?”

Psych Ops, it’s demoralizing to the enemy.


17 posted on 12/01/2010 9:44:08 AM PST by Greek
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To: SeekAndFind
then the weapons will be available to terrorists and “freedom fighters” in every corner of the world. The only way to prevent that is to stop designing weapons systems, which is hardly realistic.

A silly statement. Sooner or later, all innovations are copied. It's the sincerest form of flattery. Eventually, any given doo-dad will wind up in your enemy's hands. The only way to prevent him from catching up to you is to keep designing different weapons and tactics. The only consistent advantage it's possible to have in warfare is for your society to be a consistent innovator, so that your fighting men consistently have the most effective innovations first.

That's one of the many reasons free enterprise is essential to our national security and our political freedom: It's the system that spawns the innovations that win wars for us.

18 posted on 12/01/2010 9:44:15 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: SeekAndFind
You have to install the server software in the ammunition ~ the client is the machine computing the initial targeting parameters and pulling the trigger.

The logic for "smart ammunition" was thought out a good 10 years back. One my articles on the question is buried somewhere in FR archives.

This makes it rather difficult for the enemy to "use" unspent ammunition against you, and even if they manage to copy everything over, you can have lebenteengazillion character long magic identification codes that are, in this universe, effectively uncrackable. Put everything you can into cache and nothing into magnetic memory helps too. You pull your weapon from the armory, the IS is loaded in the ammunition and firing base, and then it's disappeared forever. You run out of bullets, or battery power, it disappears too.

There are a lot of variations on a theme ~ I thought about using this technology to make bullets that would target only peripheral points like arms, legs, feet ~ and leave the shiny spot (your eyeballs) alone. That way you could leap out of bed, open fire on an intruder, and probably not kill your kids slipping in late from a night on the town.

19 posted on 12/01/2010 9:45:15 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: bigbob
Until as one commenter says, wikileaks publishes plans showing the Taliban how to build their own....

Is the CIA on vacation? Why is that guy still using up carbon credits that algore could be wasting?

20 posted on 12/01/2010 9:45:18 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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