Posted on 12/01/2010 4:45:25 AM PST by EternalVigilance
The folks in the military I’ve talked to ALL say no way to fags.
I’m betting your survey is much more accurate than Obama’s.
Yes. The ‘Military Poll’ is a lie. Just like all things Democrat these days.
How about separate armies.
Send the real army to kill people and break things and the open homosexuals to solve difficult interior decoration problems.
Are gays going to have a higher KIA (killed in action) rate due to a lack of mutual coverage?
Common sense would say “yes.”
They will probably be assigned to blow up the enemy?
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They just have to suck it up to get the mission accomplished.
It’s possible that would “even out” at an overall higher rate if it becomes an “us” against “them” mentality.
Point well taken.
The survey was designed and written to elicit the “PC” response. Couple that with the fact that although it was supposed to be anonymous, there is always the possibility it would be tracked.
Many guys would not want to jeopardize their military careers by responding in a certain way. It’s just the way of the world. They have to hold their political opinions very close to the vest.
The vast majority or military people we know don’t particularly care if someone is gay or not, they feel it is irrelevant to the job and “Don’t ask, don’t tell” WORKS because sexuality should not be an issue.
To the max.
He said it is a prescription for a disaster and multiple law suits.
He told me that the media is just making up the numbers as there has been no formal "secret" vote by the average military folks.
You can't have a superior officer ask these kinds of questions to junior officers and enlisted men and expect to get honest answers.
This is a seriously bad idea.
That’s part of the reason I keep calling this what it is: a BIG LIE campaign.
It’s plan stupid. It’ll never work, especially for those on ships, in combat, and subs. You get one gay guy hit on a straight or even a hint of hitting on him or perceived, your gonna have some real problems.
Its easy to say “no problem” when its not a reality. I don’t know combat units, but I know sailors. When the Navy screws up the implementation of this policy; and they will, the crap will hit the fan. As soon as a sailor sees someone else getting a better deal or getting out of some duty, or even having better berthing on the ship, the hate and discontent will begin to boil up. Expect the number of “new” gay sailors to jump when full realization of the bennies comes to light.
I believe that the results are fairly accurate, but they are not 100% truthful, or reflect the representation of the military as a whole. First off this is my opinion and not that of the US government or military. Secondly, like an...y good soldier if this is passed most soldiers including myself will suck it up and drive on, and either choose to get out (which I believe will be a large portion of the military) or re-enlist when our contracts have expired.
The results of this survey stated that the combat arms - meaning infantry, armor, special forces, engineers, and marines do not support allowing open homosexuality. I believe this to be the case because these are the men (women are not allowed to serve in front line units) who are at the tip of the spear of the fight. They are living in ragged conditions at combat outpost far from the luxurious “FOBS” or base camps. These are men who go days without showers, and are required to more often than not share showers and water supply, sometimes re-supply is non-existant depending on if the route or convoys have been ambushed. Also due to the nature of the fight being in remote, mountainous, but sometimes urban terrain (Iraq) our soliders are required to live with, and work amongst the locals. Having openly gay soldiers will affect the moral of these units, and cause discplinary problems. I can take an example from Iraq, we had a soldier at a combat outpost who was sleeping with the local Iraqi interpretors we had living on this little post in the middle of Baghdad. This hurt moral, and caused distrust among fellow soldiers. This also led to a breach in operational security as this soldier was emotionally attached to the Iraqis that he was sleeping with. Putting soldiers far away from home in remote, and often dangerous, and chaotic situations and requiring them to also deal with love relationships amongst their colleagues is not an additional stress that needs to be added. Also I believe that when you will have openly gay soldiers you will see an increase in favoritism in the ranks due to a relationship. This will also affect moral as well as retention. When you put private joe snuffy from Winterset Iowa in a remote, dangerous, and often fight or flight situation he does not need to be worried about if his comrades are sleeping with eachother, or with their superiors. I believe the results of this policy if enacted will be disasterous on America’s fighting man, especially in the infantry.
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