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To: centurion316; butterdezillion
Obama was elected by a majority of the voters in the 2008 election. That win secured for him a majority in the Electoral College and they cast their votes as pledged to elect Obama President. The Congress confirmed the vote of the Electoral College and he was sworn into office by the Chief Justice of the United States. Every Constitutional Officer of the United States, every member of Congress, and both major political parties have endorsed this outcome. You can’t get more legitimate than that.

I'm under 30, if I were to run for president and win the majority vote, etc, and all of congress and all of the supreme court and EVERY member of the executive branch certified that I was president I would *STILL* be unqualified -- The Constitution itself requires that I be at least 35 -- nothing except a Constitutional Amendment can alter that requirement; that so many people believe and swear otherwise is irrelevant.

If the speculation about Obama’s eligibility is to go anywhere, then someone needs to produce some evidence.

People have evidence that doesn't match The Official Story, yet they keep getting dismissed with 'that's just silly' when they ask that the inconsistencies be resolved. (See the responses to Butterdzillion on this very thread.)

Some clown in a uniform does not hold a Commission in the Armed Forces unless he really holds such a commission. Your argument is just silly.

So are the orders issued by the clown legitimate or not? Everyone who has been of the opposite opinion of myself on the legitimacy of the LTC's orders will not answer the question with a straight 'yes' or 'no,' even as you have; this keeps them from having to justify their decision.

So, instead of entering into an actual debate where you can prove me wrong the response is SHUT UP. {Or the more polite "Your argument is just silly."}

Finally:
Lakin was talked into pulling a political stunt, and a hopeless political stunt at that. [..] He should be doing his duty treating wounded soldiers in Afghanistan, they are doing theirs.

I thought that officers swore an oath to the Constitution. Was that all bunk? You, as a commissioned officer, tell me.
I've given cited, legal reasons why this "political stunt" is valid. I've given a thought experiment which none of my opposition dares to answer honestly. I've given moral reasoning. I've tried to keep my responses reasoned. Hell, I've shown that the lack of investigation into the validity of orders in an Article 92 hearing is itself an Article 92 violation!

If all that you officers have is an appeal to authority, whether military or judicial, [and not one grain of reasoning or integrity] then I am deeply saddened and disgusted by the officer corps. In fact I should say that if that is the quality of the officers in the military then the treatment of soldiers returning from Vietnam was merely a generation too early and a pay-scale [or two] too indiscriminate; such a moral-less, courage-less, honor-less creature deserves such revilement.

And that, that breaks my heart.

337 posted on 12/04/2010 5:50:34 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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341 posted on 12/04/2010 5:57:32 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Your entire premise is completely false. Officers are following the Constitution, excepting Lakin, of course. What proof do you have that Mr. Obama is not the Constitutionally legitimate President? None, of course and neither does anyone else. What you have are wild allegations and speculation that isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit.

Produce some evidence. The world awaits.


342 posted on 12/04/2010 5:57:47 PM PST by centurion316
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