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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Islam s not really a Totalitarian Political Ideal and is a Religion. While I certainly do not believe in it, I do know that there’s more to it than these simplified gestures. That said, they actually worship the same God as Christians and Jews. The Church Fathers who lived at the time when Islam emerged even said this.

I always had a problem with people who insist that Islam worships a different god as most of the arguments are silly. For example, Islam rejects the Trinity, so it can’t be the same God as Christians worship. But Jews also reject the Trinity and do worship the same God.

Before I am Criticised, I will explain one thing first.

There is a difference between the worship of a false god, and the false worship of God. Islam follows a False Prophet. But, Muhammad was no different from the other False Prophets, such as Marcion, or Arius. (Technically neither Marcion nor Arius never claimed to be a Prophet, but I am being poetic.)

Muhammad was more akin to a Heretic than a Pagan, and his god was the same God as Abraham. The difference is, he was not Truly giving Gods message to the world. Its like if I pose to be a messenger of the King, but give you a message from myself, or even a Lord who has tricked me into thinking he is the King.

While the message is not from the real King, the people who follow the instructions are no less Loyal to the King, they simply follow a falsehood regarding him and his will.

Modern Muslims may be wrong about their Doctrines, but they do follow the same God, albeit imperfectly and with false teachings.

Also, not all Muslims are terrorists, nor are all Muslim Nations oppressive. EG, Jordan or the United Arab Emirates. Both natiosna re actually tolerant of other Religions and generally welcoming, but both are Islamic.

I tend to view Islam as I do Mormonism, as an offshoot Religion of Christianity that was lead astray by a Charismatic Leader.

(No offence intended to Mormons here, but I am not a Mormon. Obviously if I thought Joseph Smith were a Prophet I would be a Mormon. I am not, so this shouldn’t be unexpected.)

Modern Mormons try to follow Gods Will by and large as do Modern Muslims, and many are decent and sincere people who simply aren’t that Hostile. Each should be judged by their individual actions, not base don the Religion they adhere to.


67 posted on 11/30/2010 2:08:33 PM PST by ZAROVE
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To: ZAROVE
That said, they actually worship the same God as Christians and Jews.

I can prove empirically that this false and will do so tomorrow.

Islam is demonic...it is the worship of Lucifer/Satan.

"By its (their) fruits will you know it/them."

78 posted on 11/30/2010 5:01:12 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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