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To: ZAROVE
Saying Allah is not Jehovah and referring to Allah as the god of Islam as if its a personal name makes you look foolish.

To whom?

Surah Ikhlas (Holy Qur'an 112:1-4) is:

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.
And of course the ever popular Shahadah...
"There is no god but Allah"
Again, you prove yourself a master of islamic obfuscation. Yes, Allah is Arabic for God. So what! It is what he is called in islam.

Give him another name, call him the "islamic god"...call him "Moon God"! However you paint this picture with your circular logic, the god of islam is not the Judeo/Christian God.

But in the end, when I use the name Allah in the Western World (which is the world in which this forum is based and the culture from which we are speaking), EVERYONE knows that the word "Allah" is a reference to one person...to one specific god. And that isn't Jehovah.

124 posted on 12/01/2010 1:20:47 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
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You are now just trying to justify something. Yes it says n those English translations Allah, but no where does it say "The god Allah'. Even the Shahada doest say "There is no god but the god Allah", and its also translated "There is no god but The God".


The point I made was that Allah is not a personal name, but is simply Arabic for "The God", and acting as if you can contrast Allah to Jehovah as if Allah is the personal name of the Muslim god which is distinct from the one worshipped by Christians is linguistic foolishness.


Then there is this...


Again, you prove yourself a master of islamic obfuscation. Yes, Allah is Arabic for God. So what! It is what he is called in islam.


And in Christianity. And in Judaism. That is, if they speak Arabic.


Not all Muslims call "the Muslim god" Allah, and none call him their god Allah.


Many Western Muslims who speak English actually say "God", and in one of my English Translations of the Koran its God, not Allah. Allah is simply an untranslated Arabic expression.


By the away, how would I practice Islamic Obfuciation when I am not a Muslim? or is that Tyrkit and I'm lying abotu my Faith now?


Give him another name, call him the "islamic god"...call him "Moon God"! However you paint this picture with your circular logic, the god of islam is not the Judeo/Christian God.

The moon god Theory is discredited nonsense. Also, my Argument wasn't circular. My argument is that Islam is an Abrahamic Faith that grew out of an obvious Christian Cultural influence.


You haven't shown that to be wrong, or even addressed it.


But in the end, when I use the name Allah in the Western World (which is the world in which this forum is based and the culture from which we are speaking), EVERYONE knows that the word "Allah" is a reference to one person...to one specific god. And that isn't Jehovah.


Allah is not a name, though. And tehcniclaly Jehovah isn't either. Johovah was an attmeoted reconstruction of Gods Savred name, from the Tetranomenon.


Allah is Arabic for "The God".


And you still havent sown any reaosn to really counter what I said earlier.



126 posted on 12/01/2010 2:05:38 PM PST by ZAROVE
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