[roses of sharon]

Could be, or they all still believe it to be so.

Who knows.

[TXnMA]

Perhaps so. I'm not concerned about what they believe, do or say. They are all big boys and can take care of themselves. '-)

My interest is in collecting ALL the evidence (not "expert" opinions) and in following where it leads. The facts so far have all been matters of somewhat complex physics and geometry and human perception (as in perspective effects).

Just keep your mind open -- and look for facts -- not opinions and politically-driven theories...

Nice chatting with you! :-)