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To: EdLake
They even let Ivins work with dangerous pathogens alone and unsupervised in his BSL-3 lab at night and on weekends.

For safety reasons, they didn't like anyone working alone in a lab, especially where dangerous agents are concerned. OTOH, people eager to get experimental results tend to ignore those safety rules because of the difficulty in getting someone to come in and just sit around the lab while they're working odd hours; the compromise is that people entering the facility at odd hours have to sign in and let security know where they expect to be, so that security can check up on them. IOW, there was nothing unusual about Ivins working alone or at odd hours. By that criteria, you'd better be seeing a judge to get an arrest warrant for exDemMom, because she clearly is a criminal, having done exactly the same thing. Science is not a 9-5 job.

As I have said before, I am highly skeptical about the "evidence" against Ivins. Much of it, like his working hours, applies to any scientist. Statements about his mental status, even those entered in the court records, are likely to be self-serving testimony offered by people with their own agenda. A scapegoat was needed, and he's a perfect one now that he can't defend himself.

I never met Hatfill. But there's only one degree of separation between him and me.

But, you usually have to get them talking about other people or one of their obsessions before you can tell that they're sociopaths.

They don't need to talk about obsessions (OCD is a different condition anyway) for me to pick up on their psychopathy. Even when they learn to act normal, and they seem normal on the surface, I pick up on it. They are the most dangerous when they realize that they can't manipulate you because you know them for what they are...

86 posted on 12/02/2010 5:59:23 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
Since you know how lab timelines operated I'll ask you.

Let's say a scientist needs to read a set of plates and it will take 20 minutes, but they come due to read at 10 p.m. on Sat. night.

Some ninny plated them. Knowing well that they would have to be read at this time.

How much time would be recorded:

a. the 20 minutes
b. a minimum of 2 hours of work time as per union rules
c. other

87 posted on 12/02/2010 6:06:32 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is neigh.)
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To: exDemMom
exDemMom wrote: "IOW, there was nothing unusual about Ivins working alone or at odd hours."

Oh? Here's the chart of Ivins' overtime hours:

It looks to me like Ivins overtime hours were unusual, and they happened at exactly the time that the anthrax mailer would have been working on the attack anthrax.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

93 posted on 12/03/2010 6:57:37 AM PST by EdLake
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