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Hungary takes aim at [seizing] private pension funds
Yahoo Finance ^ | Wednesday, Nov. 24, 2010.

Posted on 11/28/2010 2:25:13 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin

Hungary is trying to force 3 million people now in private pension schemes back into the state system to help it meet strict budget targets.

Special incentives would be offered to those switching into the state pension plan by Jan. 31, Economy Minister Gyorgy Matolcsy said Wednesday. Those people remaining in private schemes will become ineligible for public pensions -- a move that would effectively cost them 70 percent of their retirement payouts.

At stake is about 2.7 trillion forints (euro9.8 billion, $13.5 billion) accumulated in individual pension accounts and managed by private pension funds.

The government plan, while not nationalizing private pension funds outright as Argentina did in 2008, is expected to make it very difficult for the 18 funds offering pension services in Hungary to keep operating.

Matolcsy said severe cuts will also be made in how much private funds can charge for fees and operating expenses.

Hungarians will automatically be transferred into the state system unless they opt out.

At present, 10 percent of most employees' wages go into a private pension fund, while employers pay another 24 percent into state coffers. Under the government's new plan, those who stay in the private scheme can count only on their own 10 percent payments when they retire.

Matolcsy told reporters the new plan was an "important turning point in terms of economic policy."

Hungary was hard hit by the global financial crisis and is still facing daunting economic challenges. In 2008, it was forced to rely on a bailout of euro20 billion ($27 billion) from the International Monetary Fund and other institutions to avoid bankruptcy.

Government officials this summer have made contradictory statements about the state of the country's finances, increasing uncertainty in the financial markets about Hungary's credibility and hurting the stability of the forint.

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To: Slyfox

“I hate to say this, but when Jackson first said that about pensions I thought he was joking.”

Jackson: “Why can’t we have some of that money?”

He was dead serious when he made that statement. Was it a dem convention speech? Anyway, he hasn’t said it since then that I know of. I believe the shake-down king knew something back then and was paid very well to shut up.


21 posted on 11/28/2010 3:21:39 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Socialism can’t survive

Neither can Communism.

Communities based on the nuclear family however can; as time has shown.

22 posted on 11/28/2010 3:29:59 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Guilty of being White.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Those people remaining in private schemes will become ineligible for public pensions -- a move that would effectively cost them 70 percent of their retirement payouts.

Even if it does cost them 70 percent they will probably come out ahead if they keep their private funds private.

That 70 percent will be inflated away to nothing by the time they collect it.

23 posted on 11/28/2010 3:36:55 PM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: freeangel

Wasn’t Tom Harkin talking about trying to get something like this through during the lame duck session this year? I haven’t heard any talk of it since the election (which doesn’t necessarily mean they have given up on the idea).


24 posted on 11/28/2010 4:18:43 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: bruinbirdman
Next up will be the ultimate Social Security means test: If you have a private pension or retirement account, you don't qualify for SS.

Yeah, but you're still forced to pay into that ponzi scheme. Ah well all those new citizens need retirement too I suppose.

25 posted on 11/28/2010 4:53:54 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Seizing pension funds in ... America just pushes the day of reckoning a few years down the road.

Actually, it moves it up to the next day.

26 posted on 11/28/2010 5:17:46 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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