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Bobby Jindal's Downside (Jindal as POTUS? Take a closer look at his record as Louisiana governor)
American Thinker ^ | 11/26/2010 | Tom Roberson

Posted on 11/26/2010 6:35:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: RoadTest

RE: I keep reading articles by people who are supposedly conservatives knocking down potential conservative Presidential candidates one-by-one.


A forum like this one is supposed to be an OPEN discussion on the strengths and weaknesses of a candidate in terms of who can be the best and most conservative President.

My suggestion to all is this — whenever the weaknesses of a candidate are presented, LET’s NOT LOOK AT IT AS AN ATTEMPT TO BASH or DEMEAN or DIMINISH the person.

It is an attempt to look at the pros and cons of a candidate before the primaries.

Too often, this forum devolves into personal attacks against a poster for posting a topic which is clearly meant for discussion and exchange.

No one is perfect and experienced in all aspect of governance or policy, and there is always room for improvement. If Ronald Reagan had to learn from past mistakes.

In the end, we all know who we will NOT vote for and that is the man sitting in the White House.


41 posted on 11/26/2010 7:23:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: RoadTest

It is a form of vetting, which the MSM certainly failed to do in 2008 for the Dem candidate.

I posted early on in the 2008 cycle that Fred Thompson was McCain-light and had helped write the Campaign Reform Bill. I got skewered, until others started seeing weaknesses in the Thompson campaign. Even FR was gung-ho pro-Thompson. I posted I thought it strange Guiliana used his cancer as a reason not to face Hillary Clinton for the Senate, while John Kerry, who had the same kind of cancer, mounted a presidential candidacy that almost gave him the White House.

Bandwagon candidates should be vetted substantially. With the advent of the Internet, we can know who they actually are -- over and above their public relations persona -- and what they actually believe. But, we still have the problem of many voters to vote for the same -- like the suddenly converted I saw the light, so I am now a conservative again McCain in AZ.

Vet them! Knock at them. See what their weaknesses are. Check their baggage and verify their baggage claims. It is better to do it early and weed out the undesirables early.


42 posted on 11/26/2010 7:26:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

G. Ford


43 posted on 11/26/2010 7:26:56 AM PST by tayper (Granny told me, Saying it don't make it so)
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To: SeekAndFind
In the end, we all know who we will NOT vote for and that is the man sitting in the White House

I've voted for my last RINO. If this means sitting out the election. I will. I will vote against Webb in VA Senate but leave the top of the ticket blank. So keep on a bashing.

44 posted on 11/26/2010 7:28:19 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: samtheman
Click here for the link. Scroll down and activate the audio/video link about a third of the way down thru the transcript. You might have to suffer thru a 'Goldline' ad first...
45 posted on 11/26/2010 7:28:57 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: tayper

RE: G. Ford

Ford became President, not by election, but by accident of constitutional succession.

I’d have considered him as a recent precedent had he won through a presidential election.


46 posted on 11/26/2010 7:29:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Thermalseeker
The only real stand out in the past 40 years is Ronald Reagan.

And he only got the GOP 'nod' because he selected Bush from the GOP elite column as his VP.


47 posted on 11/26/2010 7:30:08 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Running On Empty
What are the “problems” with Pence?

He has made noise that he intends to run for governor. That, supposedly, was the reason he stepped down from his leadership position in the House GOP.
48 posted on 11/26/2010 7:31:45 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
Vet them! Knock at them. See what their weaknesses are. Check their baggage and verify their baggage claims. It is better to do it early and weed out the undesirables early.

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ. Is there something we DON'T know about Sarah Palin for God's sake? Hell, I know more about her than Barry Hawaii.

She is the most vetted person I have ever seen.

49 posted on 11/26/2010 7:32:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Oops...this is a ‘truncated’ version to advertise the ‘extreme’ side of his website. Too bad, because the part where Jindal gets into the oil spill is the best part...at least the transcript is there, but you can’t hear the anger in Jindal’s voice.


50 posted on 11/26/2010 7:34:30 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Running On Empty

Besides freepers, nobody knows who he is. Like DeMint, he has zero chance to win nationally and is a political lightweight.


51 posted on 11/26/2010 7:34:50 AM PST by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: tayper

Ford actually went from the House to Vice President to President under unique circumstances. There is no way he could have been elected President as the 1976 election proved.


52 posted on 11/26/2010 7:41:25 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: JerseyDvl

I agree with you that Pence is largely unknown outside of those who follow politics closely but he is hardly a “political lightweight.”


53 posted on 11/26/2010 7:43:55 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: SeekAndFind

A Thanksgiving Message to All 57 States
.by Sarah Palin on Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 5:46pm.My fellow Americans in all 57 states, the time has changed for come. With our country founded more than 20 centuries ago, we have much to celebrate – from the FBI’s 100 days to the reforms that bring greater inefficiencies to our health care system. We know that countries like Europe are willing to stand with us in our fight to halt the rise of privacy, and Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. And let’s face it, everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma and they end up taking up a hospital bed. It costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early, and they got some treatment, and ah, a breathalyzer, or an inhalator. I mean, not a breathalyzer, ah, I don’t know what the term is in Austrian for that…

Of course, the paragraph above is based on a series of misstatements and verbal gaffes made by Barack Obama (I didn’t have enough time to do one for Joe Biden). YouTube links are provided just in case you doubt the accuracy of these all too human slips-of-the-tongue. If you can’t remember hearing about them, that’s because for the most part the media didn’t consider them newsworthy. I have no complaint about that. Everybody makes the occasional verbal gaffe – even news anchors.

Obviously, I would have been even more impressed if the media showed some consistency on this issue. Unfortunately, it seems they couldn’t resist the temptation to turn a simple one word slip-of-the-tongue of mine into a major political headline. The one word slip occurred yesterday during one of my seven back-to-back interviews wherein I was privileged to speak to the American public about the important, world-changing issues before us.

If the media had bothered to actually listen to all of my remarks on Glenn Beck’s radio show, they would have noticed that I refer to South Korea as our ally throughout, that I corrected myself seconds after my slip-of-the-tongue, and that I made it abundantly clear that pressure should be put on China to restrict energy exports to the North Korean regime. The media could even have done due diligence and checked my previous statements on the subject, which have always been consistent, and in fact even ahead of the curve. But why let the facts get in the way of a good story? (And for that matter, why not just make up stories out of thin air – like the totally false hard news story which has run for three days now reporting that I lobbied the producers of “Dancing with the Stars” to cast a former Senate candidate on their show. That lie is further clear proof that the media completely makes things up without doing even rudimentary fact-checking.)

“Hope springs eternal” as the poet says. Let’s hope that perhaps, just maybe, they might get it right next time. When we the people are effective in holding America’s free press accountable for responsible and truthful reporting, then we shall all have even more to be thankful for!

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

- Sarah Palin

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54 posted on 11/26/2010 7:44:27 AM PST by FreeperDoll
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To: flintsilver7; abb

In abb's defense, I would rather hear from those who know these candidates from experience, rather than those who only read/write about them from a distance and jump on their bandwagon.

In 2008, many lauded Huckabee as a great savior of the conservatives. I lived in Arkansas and knew of some of his actions as governor. Those actions his bots didn't want to believe or hear about.

The same with Thompson and those who grabbed onto him as some great savior of conservatism, but didn't want to hear about or made excuses for his actions during his short Senate tenure.

The same is true with the Gingrich bots who have no idea, and don't really want to know, how/why Gingrich lost his House speakership and virtually walked away from his House seat.


55 posted on 11/26/2010 7:44:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: central_va

Congratulations on being part of the problem.


56 posted on 11/26/2010 7:44:54 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: central_va

RE: So keep on a bashing.

How about this — instead of calling it bashing, let’s call it presenting information so that the truth about whether a potential candidate is a RINO or not can be discerned at this early stage?

If a potential candidate is a RINO, better to find out now before the primaries arrive.


57 posted on 11/26/2010 7:50:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: tayper

Ford actually came from the House to the Vice Presidency for a short time (9 months), before Nixon resigned and he became president.

So, technically, he did not come directly from the House.


58 posted on 11/26/2010 7:51:20 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

I will not argue that all candidates have flaws. It is my opinion that during the tenure of the average Representative/Senator/Governor, they will say and do things that make conservatives cringe. Without knowing the inner workings of politics, it is very difficult to know why these things were done. A person who ends up legislating, voting, or governing in such a way that they appear “90% conservative” is fine with me, as a person who is 100% conservative does not exist (and has never existed).

If you ask me, I will take a man of good character and relatively good political record. The thing that bothers me is that most on our side spend their time magnifying the few flaws our candidates have rather than targeting the true enemy.


59 posted on 11/26/2010 7:52:23 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: SeekAndFind

massive cuts to health and higher education. Jindal has been criticized for pushing hard decisions down the road to avoid offending anyone

I quit reading after that. So nobody was offended by massive health and higher education cuts.


60 posted on 11/26/2010 7:54:42 AM PST by pas
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