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1 posted on 11/24/2010 5:03:37 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Astronomers think there might be a considerable amount of rare earth metals in the asteroid belt. Of course, it seems that the US is no longer enterprising enough to go get them, but there is a good chance they are there.


2 posted on 11/24/2010 5:13:43 PM PST by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: neverdem

The article mentions the Mountain Pass mine in CA as a source for these rare earth minerals. If this is America’s only viable source for the metals, then yes, we are at the mercy of the chinese. Why? Because california will be too environmentally sensitive to exploit the mine, even if the prices for the minerals will rise enough to make it worthwhile.


3 posted on 11/24/2010 5:13:43 PM PST by Vision Thing (He has a white house, and he wants to paint it black.)
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To: neverdem
Are we at their mercy?

Yes, since we have plenty but choose not to use our own.

4 posted on 11/24/2010 5:14:08 PM PST by stboz
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To: neverdem

No, we’re at the mercy of the EPA and fedgov. We have plenty of rare earth resources. However, rare earths tend to be found with radioactive elements, and nobody can get a permit to mine them.


5 posted on 11/24/2010 5:17:57 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: neverdem
This is about the eleventeenth time this particular topic has come up.

A refurbished (modernized) mine is reopening in early 2011. The problem that got the mine shut down was how to deal with radioactive waste products.

Yes, rare earth mines are generally radioactive to one degree or the other. That's because we get the rare earths from ores that were once THORIUM. We have some nuclear plant designs that use THORIUM rather than Uranium.

The Chinese appear to have allowed rare earth mining get the upper hand and now they have some serious "down stream" radioactive problems.

The problem is Leftwingtards, like the Chicoms, don't really care about environmental issues. They're just dirty people into it for the power they think they can get over others.

6 posted on 11/24/2010 5:18:08 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: neverdem
We are being strangled by the Eco/Nazis that want to do us in.
8 posted on 11/24/2010 5:22:07 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: neverdem

“Rare Earth”? Love that band. I believe it was the first white band signed by Motown.


9 posted on 11/24/2010 5:28:01 PM PST by Holen1
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To: neverdem

Or are we at the mercy of the EPA and the environuts, and most of the country just now gets it after sticking their fingers in their ears for 35 years.


10 posted on 11/24/2010 5:36:37 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: neverdem
Yes, we are at their mercy.

Free trade does have a downside - and the Chinese are going to remind us what it is.

15 posted on 11/24/2010 6:59:09 PM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: neverdem

Watch out for dodgy stock promoters who try to pick your pockets on this situation. USGS recently released a new report on the topic.

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2642&from=rss_home

Rare Earth Elements in U.S. Not So Rare Significant Deposits Found in 14 States
Released: 11/17/2010 12:27:49 PM

Approximately 13 million metric tons of rare earth elements (REE) exist within known deposits in the United States, according to the first-ever nationwide estimate of these elements by the U.S. Geological Survey.

This estimate of domestic rare earth deposits is part of a larger report that includes a review of global sources for REE, information on known deposits that might provide domestic sources of REE in the future, and geologic information crucial for studies of the availability of REE to U.S. industry.

The report describes significant deposits of REE in 14 states, with the largest known REE deposits at Mountain Pass, Calif.; Bokan Mountain, Alaska; and the Bear Lodge Mountains, Wyo. The Mountain Pass mine produced REE until it closed in 2002. Additional states with known REE deposits include Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, and South Carolina.

“This is the first detailed assessment of rare earth elements for the entire nation, describing deposits throughout the United States,” commented USGS Director Marcia McNutt, Ph.D. “It will be very important, both to policy-makers and industry, and it reinforces the value of our efforts to maintain accurate, independent information on our nation’s natural resources. Although many of these deposits have yet to be proven, at recent domestic consumption rates of about 10,000 metric tons annually, the US deposits have the potential to meet our needs for years to come.”

REE are a group of 16 metallic elements with similar properties and structures that are essential in the manufacture of a diverse and expanding array of high-technology applications. Despite their name, they are relatively common within the earth’s crust, but because of their geochemical properties, they are not often found in economically exploitable concentrations.

Hard-rock deposits yield the most economically exploitable concentrations of REE. USGS researchers also analyzed two other types of REE deposits: placer and phosphorite deposits. Placer deposits are alluvial formations of sandy sediments, which often contain concentrations of heavy, dense minerals, some containing REE. Phosphorite deposits, which mostly occur in the southeastern U.S., contain large amounts of phosphate-bearing minerals. These phosphates can yield yttrium and lanthanum, which are also REE.

Ninety-six percent of REE produced globally now comes from China. New REE mines are being developed in Australia, and projects exploring the feasibility of economically developing additional REE deposits are under way in the United States, Australia, and Canada; successful completion of these projects could help meet increasing demand for REE, the report said.

REE are important ingredients in high-strength magnets, metal alloys for batteries and light-weight structures, and phosphors. These are essential components for many current and emerging alternative energy technologies, such as electric vehicles, photo-voltaic cells, energy-efficient lighting, and wind power. REEs are also critical for a number of key defense applications.

This report is part of a larger, Department of Defense-funded study of how the United States, and the Department of Defense in particular, use REE, as well as the status and security of domestic and global supply chains. In addition, the USGS National Minerals Information Center maintains statistics on global mineral production, trade, and resources that include rare earth elements.

The new USGS report, which provides an overview of domestic REE resources and possibilities for utilizing those resources, is available on line at http://pubs.usgs.gov/sir/2010/5220.


16 posted on 11/24/2010 8:34:06 PM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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19 posted on 11/24/2010 10:45:51 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Get on the Rare Earth bandwagon!

http://www.kaiserbottomfish.com/s/Education.asp?ReportID=362761

http://treo.typepad.com/raremetalblog/


20 posted on 11/25/2010 4:25:06 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: neverdem; Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek; headsonpikes; All

Thanks for the ping; post; links; thread. Very interesting.


26 posted on 11/25/2010 9:06:19 PM PST by PGalt
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