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To: ops33

There are several types of US Citizenship. Your children are described as statutory US citizens, i.e. they are U.S. Citizens by legislation written by the US Congress and signed into law by a US President.

Most legal scholars contend statutory US Citizens are Natural born citizens, but its debatable. For example, a statutory citizen born in Germany to US Citizen parents has the option to opt out of US Citizenship and choose to be recognized as a German.

The thought of a Natural born citizen opting out when he reaches the age of majority is contrary to very basis of the definition of a Natural born citizen. Even a naturalized citizen must renounce the citizenship of their home country before they can naturalize.


128 posted on 11/24/2010 5:57:15 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Soebarkah renounced his US Citizenship in 1968.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Current German law, and the law that existed when my children were born, requires at least one parent to be a German citizen for any children to be eligible for German citizenshp. Not sure what the law would be for children born in the UK, Spain, Portugal, Japan, Italy, etc.

I would not be happy if I found out, that because of my service to my Country, that my children were not considered Natural Born Citizens.


160 posted on 11/24/2010 8:54:36 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: SvenMagnussen; ops33
Most legal scholars contend statutory US Citizens are Natural born citizens.

Nonsense!

They are "statutory citizens," just as you describe them in your post.

Persons, eligible for the presidency, have no first generation ties to a foreign nation, whereas ineligible persons always do. ALL statutory citizens are born with a tie to another nation by birthplace and/or blood, but NEVER is that the case with any natural born citizens who are only American.

Born in the USA of American citizen parents.

There is nothing "natural" about receiving one's citizenship as the result of a law/statute.


165 posted on 11/24/2010 9:23:20 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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