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Oh my: 64% support new TSA scanners but public split on pat downs
Hotair ^ | 11/23/2010 | Allahpundit

Posted on 11/23/2010 8:07:24 AM PST by WebFocus

Something for everyone here. For TSA skeptics, evidence that relentless media scrutiny over the past week is turning the public against the new protocol. That widely linked CBS poll taken between Nov. 7 and 10 showed 81 percent support for full-body scanners; this new one from ABC conducted just yesterday shows support down to 64 percent for the machines and a 50/48 split (within the margin of error) against the patdowns. (Among those who fly at least once a year, it’s 54 percent.) For skeptics of the skeptics, it’s evidence that for all of Drudge’s heavy breathing, most of the public’s still willing to have a screener remotely view their junk for security reasons. In which case, maybe Howard Kurtz is right. Maybe this is just an old-fashioned media pants-soiling!

Despite some outrageous incidents involving idiotic conduct, with 2 million passengers screened each day, more than 99 percent are unaffected by the new policy.

“Very few people actually get the pat-down at all,” John Pistole, who runs the Transportation Security Administration, told me. “I don’t know what the impression is” from all the media scrutiny, he says, “but it’s a very, very small number.”…

The [media] narrative combines a number of elements: Hassled airline passengers (who can’t relate to that?); terrorism concerns; invasion of privacy, and a hint of sexual naughtiness. But the key here is that every local news outlet in America could send a reporter or a crew to a nearby airport and grab a piece of the action…

[I]n the modern media world, anecdotal accounts rule. Perhaps some customers, not the disabled ones, were being oversensitive; doesn’t matter. We all identify with bedraggled passengers, having removed their shoes and belts, having dumped their drinks and packed their tiny toothpaste tubes, being oppressed by a rigid and inflexible system. But that doesn’t mean the excesses are widespread.

TSA’s doing what little damage control it can in response to high-profile outrages, either denouncing specific incidents on TV or personally apologizing to the victims by phone. But as Gibbsy acknowledged at today’s press briefing, political pressure is now such that the procedures are obviously going to evolve. Whether that means keeping the scanners but eliminating the patdowns in favor of an alternative (sniffer dogs?) or adding a technological tweak to further obscure passengers’ identities or something bolder, we’ll see. But, via the new poll, there is support for certain forms of profiling — provided it’s done right, of course:

Why, in an age of jihadi terror, religion would be prioritized lower than nationality, appearance, or race, I have no idea. Presumably Americans are worried either that there’s no reliable way to ascertain someone’s religion or that trying to ascertain it would necessarily involve means that are unpalatable (e.g., intense questioning of passengers about whether they’re Muslim). In any case, and needless to say, the acid test on all this is what happens tomorrow through Sunday, when a whole lot of Americans will get a taste of the new procedures firsthand. I think William Saletan’s right that “Opt Out Day” is apt to generate more of a backlash towards TSA skeptics than towards TSA itself as harried passengers stuck in line scream at them to just go through the scanner already. And if TSA can convince the public that the scanners are safe — which they are, provided that they’re only emitting the amount of radiation they’re supposed to emit — then this week might actually lead many fliers to develop a comfort level with the new procedures.

Via Breitbart, here’s freshly scanned LA mayor Antonio Villaraigosa at the airport putting his moneymaker where his mouth is to defend the new machines. When will Obama and Napolitano follow suit?

Update: A commenter makes a good point. Here’s how CBS worded its question about the scanners a few weeks ago:

Some airports are now using “full-body” digital x-ray machines to electronically screen passengers in airport security lines. Do you think these new x-ray machines should or should not be used at airports?

81 percent said yes to that. Now compare the wording in ABC’s question, to which only 64 percent answered yes:

The Transportation Security Administration is increasing its use of so-called ‘full-body’ digital x-ray machines to screen passengers in airport security lines. (Supporters say these machines improve the ability to spot hidden weapons and explosives, and reduce the need for physical searches.) (Opponents say these machines invade privacy by producing x-ray images of a passenger’s naked body that security officials can see, and don’t provide enough added security to justify this.) Which comes closer to your own view – do you support or oppose using these scanners in airport security lines?

ABC informed respondents of the cons (and pros, which are more obvious) while CBS didn’t. Maybe that explains the difference between the polls, which in turn means maybe public opinion isn’t shifting that much after all. Again, this week is the acid test; next week’s poll comparison will be more reliable.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: patdowns; scanners; tsa; tsapervs; tsascanners
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1 posted on 11/23/2010 8:07:26 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: WebFocus

BODY-SCAN OUTRAGE: The Taiwanese Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TBL3ux1o0tM


2 posted on 11/23/2010 8:10:06 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: WebFocus

Sheep are meant to be sheared and the American Public has become sheep ready for the slaughter.

And the head butcher is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.


3 posted on 11/23/2010 8:10:31 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: WebFocus
oh please. everybody hates the very idea of those freaking things and of the TSA in general.

Polls have just declared their lack of credibility.

4 posted on 11/23/2010 8:11:28 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (every bad idea once seemed good to someone.)
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To: WebFocus

Look how bonkers soccer-moms are about being in the same county as second-hand-smoke from a cigarette. Just wait till they find out these X-ray machines are equivalent to smoking 10 pacs of cigs for each scan.

Don’t worry, though, the death panels will know how to handle your TSA induced cancer.


5 posted on 11/23/2010 8:12:17 AM PST by wrench
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To: WebFocus

I do not believe the 64% statement. It is too easy to set up a poll to get the figures you wish to have.


6 posted on 11/23/2010 8:14:12 AM PST by calex59
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To: WebFocus

That is because they don’t know Michael Chertoff sold them to the airports and PROFITTED BIGTIME as well as SOROS owning 11,000 shares.


7 posted on 11/23/2010 8:15:34 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: WebFocus

This poll is as bogus as abc is.

LLS


8 posted on 11/23/2010 8:15:43 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: WebFocus

The poll is defective because it includes people who never or seldom fly. History proves that not enough people care about the violation of other people’s rights. It is only when the oppression hits home that they become energized.

Just ask people if they would like for a TSA agent to be able to see through the clothes of their under 18 year old daughter or granddaughter and see how the poll changes.

The big lie behind all of this is that all of the public is equally likely to be a bomb carrying terrorist therefore random screening is the best defense. That is just enormously stupid. When you start the process on a lie you get a bad outcome.


9 posted on 11/23/2010 8:17:46 AM PST by Truth is a Weapon (If I weren't afraid of the feds, I would refer to Obama as our "undocumented POTUS")
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To: calex59

And half of the population never flies. I have flown about 3 times in 20 years.


10 posted on 11/23/2010 8:21:38 AM PST by Psalm 144
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To: WebFocus

“64 percent for the machines”

lol. reword the poll & tell people muslies don’t have to do it.


11 posted on 11/23/2010 8:24:30 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass
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I am opting out of full body x-rays at the airport because I hate anything that enables the neo-Nazi’s to violate the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

X-ray baths are far more dangerous than tanning beds.

“Hey little girl, you’re going to have to lift your arms so we can blast xrays through all of your lymph nodes.” Dr. TSA


12 posted on 11/23/2010 8:27:22 AM PST by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: yldstrk

Like another poster, I got this e-mail from a friend (Tongue in cheek, but this is a great concept for the entrpreneural).

The Israelis are developing an airport security device
that eliminates the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners at the airports.

Its a bomb proof booth you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have on you. They see this as a win-win for everyone, with none of this crap about racial profiling. It also would eliminate the costs of a long and expensive trial. Justice would be swift. Case closed!

You’re in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled
explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system . . . “Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number XXXX. Shalom!”

Hats off to the Israelis!!!!


13 posted on 11/23/2010 8:40:44 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: yldstrk

Like another poster, I got this e-mail from a friend (Tongue in cheek, but this is a great concept for the entrepreneural).

The Israelis are developing an airport security device
that eliminates the privacy concerns that come with full-body scanners at the airports.

Its a bomb proof booth you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have on you. They see this as a win-win for everyone, with none of this crap about racial profiling. It also would eliminate the costs of a long and expensive trial. Justice would be swift. Case closed!

You’re in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled
explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system . . . “Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number XXXX. Shalom!”

Hats off to the Israelis!!!!


14 posted on 11/23/2010 8:41:01 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: TauntedTiger

What they are doing with these machines is potentially so unhealthy that I don’t see how they are ever going to be able to backtrack, politically. I also don’t think they will ever voluntarily allow testing of the machines. I also worry about the roaming backscatter vans.

Surprised no one has walked through one with a rad badge and reported on it so far.

I only have a few flights left in the US, and am hoping to simply quit, or go through alternate countries after that.


15 posted on 11/23/2010 8:41:17 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: All
Post this in your local airport tomorrow:

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16 posted on 11/23/2010 8:51:59 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: WebFocus

64% ... who did they poll ... T and A employees ?


17 posted on 11/23/2010 8:59:27 AM PST by clamper1797 (Pray for Obama ... Psalms 109:8)
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To: WebFocus

I went thru PHX security last week. The T and A agent asked if I had any naked pictures with me ... I said “no” ... he then asked “do you want to buy some ?”


18 posted on 11/23/2010 9:01:25 AM PST by clamper1797 (Pray for Obama ... Psalms 109:8)
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To: ZULU
Sheep are meant to be sheared and the American Public has become sheep ready for the slaughter. And the head butcher is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.

If people are sheep, many conservatives are partly to blame. For eight years, their favorite retorts to those who warned about federal violation of our rights that "everything changed on 9-11" and "The Constitution is not a suicide pact." Now....some of the same folks who repeated these mantras are complaining that we have a nation of sheeple! Now....that's gall. What did they expect to happen?!

19 posted on 11/23/2010 9:10:35 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: WebFocus

Oh my, metro-sexual Allahpundit should just be ignored, he/it is a typical JazzShaw/Frummie tool.....HotAir continues to be a mishmash of pretentious little tools.


20 posted on 11/23/2010 9:25:37 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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