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Time to Arm Airline Passengers?
The American Thinker ^ | November 23, 2010 | The American Thinker

Posted on 11/23/2010 2:01:18 AM PST by Scanian

Edited on 11/23/2010 10:22:48 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: Scanian

not onlyt “letting” passengers carry weapons...making it a requirement of travel that they do so will ensure the safety of the flight, its crew, and the passengers...


21 posted on 11/23/2010 4:45:27 AM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Sherman Logan

I’m talking about recent attempts, which are the examples the Obots are using to justify the harassment.


22 posted on 11/23/2010 4:50:34 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
If they don’t let up, airline business will drop off, terror attack or no terror attack. Bankruptcy will be discussed, then Zer0 will want to do a GM-Chrysler deal wiith them.

Yeah, in the "never let a crisis go to waste even if you have to create the crisis" mode.
23 posted on 11/23/2010 4:59:30 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Doc Savage
Their goal is world domination by eradicating INFIDELS. That's you and your family.

I wonder every day how many more Americans are going to have to die before everyone realizes that as fact?

24 posted on 11/23/2010 5:06:02 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Scanian

I BET the Hussein/Pelosi/Reid Axis-of-Evil have let the armed pilots program and enhanced Air Marshal presence programs die a quiet death, as I’ve not heard much about either program for a good while.


25 posted on 11/23/2010 5:07:23 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Abundy
There are too many issues surrounding decompression of the airplane...

Like what? A bullet hole, or even a dozen bullet holes aren't enough to decompress an airliner. Ask any A&P who works for an airline and they'll tell you straight up that an airliner will maintain cabin pressure with a hole the size of a basketball in the fuselage.

26 posted on 11/23/2010 5:08:39 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Scanian

Here’s an idea . . . Remember those in-flight phones they used to mount in the back of the seats? Replace those with Tasers. The device would stay locked in place unless the flight crew and/or flight deck officers pushed a button to release them. Once trouble arises, there’s an active Taser in every other row of the plane.

They could even add instructions for using the Tasers to the pre-flight safety instructions. Some folks are in exit seats and need to know how to deal with certain kinds of emergencies. Others are in Taser seats and would need to know how to operate the device. Just the instructions would be enough to make any troublemaker think twice.


27 posted on 11/23/2010 5:10:59 AM PST by stranger and pilgrim
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To: BigCinBigD

Amen


28 posted on 11/23/2010 5:13:50 AM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: The Wizard
Air marshals on the Planes is the cheapest and best answer

IF they have enough, which they don't, and IF they'd let them dress in a more undercover mode (instead of professional dress - suit and tie, etc.), which they won't.

Government, except for our military, screws up virtually everything they touch.

Actually, the best AND cheapest (since the gov required them to pay for their own training) was/is the armed pilots program. If properly trained and armed, THAT is the BEST, most cost effective answer, AND, would have almost certainly, been the ONLY thing that would have kept the 9/11 terrorist bastards out of the cockpit.

29 posted on 11/23/2010 5:14:55 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Propositions like this were made right after 9-11. Like then, they will go nowhere.

Why? Because it removes the Washington bureaucrats from the decision-loop, something they simply will not allow. It's preferable to have an entire airliner full of passengers shot down by a fighter aircraft -- because that's something they do control.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

30 posted on 11/23/2010 6:49:13 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Scanian

Arming the passengers is the right thing to do- the nature of the weapon has to be considered, of course. Most of the passengers will be untrained in the use of weapons, and guns with normal ammunition would pose too much danger to passengers and airframe both.

The solution is simple (if expensive)- a taser mounted in the back of every seat, with printed instructions. They would have to be locked down, with each member of the flight crew able to unlock them for passenger use (possibly with a remote carried by each one) in case of need.

Of couse, every passenger wouldn’t be capable of taking action, but I think that enough would be to overcome any group of attackers.


31 posted on 11/23/2010 6:51:29 AM PST by TexasBarak (I canceled a subscription, and used the money to become a monthly donor instead!)
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To: Abundy
There are too many issues surrounding decompression of the airplane, the appropriate type of round to employ and the training issues associated with shooting in such a confined space surrounded by bystanders.

Please cite your sources. Numerous studies have been done that show that decompression due to a round through a window is minimal and non-catastrophic. Hell, even Mythbusters did an episode that showed that a 9mm round won't cause a catastrophic breach.

32 posted on 11/23/2010 7:02:53 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Scanian

A number of years ago Mad magazine had a great 3 panel cartoon on this subject.

Panel one was of the inside of an airliner full of passengers calmly sitting around.

Panel two had all of them jumping up with guns announcing a hijacking with them all noticing everyone else was armed.

Panel three was of the inside of an airliner full of passengers calmly sitting around.

The point is that no one is going to hijack an aircraft if they think they will be shot 2 second after screaming Alelupe Akabar or something.


33 posted on 11/23/2010 7:06:46 AM PST by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: Abundy

There is some ammo designed to not penetrate the skin of the airplane. That is what the sky marshals use.


34 posted on 11/23/2010 7:08:26 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Abundy

So are you saying that you would rather have everyone die when the aircraft is crashed into a building?


35 posted on 11/23/2010 7:09:15 AM PST by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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To: GYL2
So are you saying that you would rather have everyone die when the aircraft is crashed into a building

Did you even read my post mental midget?

I'd prefer to not have a bunch of cowboys slinging lead on the plane while I either kill the would-be hijacker with a knife or my bare hands.

36 posted on 11/23/2010 7:11:58 AM PST by Abundy
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To: redgolum
Yes, I realize that special rounds are utilized by the sky marshals...how do we make sure that anyone on a plane that is armed is:

1 - a highly qualified handgun expert than has trained for high stress shoot-don't shoot situations; and

2 - is carrying the appropriate rounds in their handgun?

Yes, it is doable...but would require more government licensing of handgun owners...

37 posted on 11/23/2010 7:15:42 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Abundy
and for the rest of you deriding me on depressurization...I'll bow to your superior knowledge.

Regards.

38 posted on 11/23/2010 7:16:54 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Abundy
and for the rest of you deriding me on depressurization...I'll bow to your superior knowledge.

Regards.

39 posted on 11/23/2010 7:17:08 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Scanian

passengers should be armed just to fend off the TSA goons


40 posted on 11/23/2010 7:20:51 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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