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To: libs_kma

If they won’t substantively acknowledge the corruption revealed by the CRU emails, why should anyone listen to another tone-deaf liberal bleating about AGW?


18 posted on 11/22/2010 7:27:17 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Focusing on the e-mails was part of the whitewash. The real shock was the computer program source code that was leaked. It was clearly written to fudge all the data. Such blatant manipulation of data completely invalidates any work from CRU or anybody else that used their data as a basis for further “research”. Anybody that took even a basic programming class in high school or college would recognize what they’d done in a moment.


93 posted on 11/22/2010 9:15:21 PM PST by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: Brett66
If they won’t substantively acknowledge the corruption revealed by the CRU emails, why should anyone listen to another tone-deaf liberal bleating about AGW?
If they won’t substantively acknowledge the corruption revealed by the CRU emails, they are know-nothings.
I'll type this slowly, so maybe you'll understand, Sherwood -
  1. The big picture is that there have been Ice Ages and there have been warmer periods - and we're not in an ice age now. So, yeah - the earth used to be colder than it is now. And colder than it was before the first substantial human use of coal or petroleum.

  2. Some of the data seem to say that temperature and CO2 are correlated - but that the CO2 has risen after the temperature has risen, not before. Oh, and BTW the "solar constant" is not a constant.

  3. On a geological time scale, we have records of thermometer readings only for the present time. Thermometers were invented "yesterday." Extreme skepticism is in order when someone glibly appends the thermometer readings of the present moment onto geological data, and presumes to extrapolate into the future.

  4. "Anthropogenic Global Warming" - suddenly transformed into "Climate Change" when the most recent temperature readings failed to cooperate - is used to promote vast impositions on the world, and especially the US, economy. Huge quantities of money are at stake. Extreme skepticism is in order when people are proposing to seize control of such vast sums - and I don't care how many PhD degrees you have on your side. I am not willing to check my brain at the door, and just let you make all the decisions. You have to convince me. Facts and logic. Facts and logic.

  5. The leak of the notorious "Climategate e-mails" and its associated computer programs, and the comments in those programs, plainly indicate that the "computer models" of the climate were not designed to learn about the ancient climate but to do a snow job on the public to convince us of the "scientific" basis for conclusions which are convenient for the scientists who created them. IOW, it looks like their conclusions and their initial assumptions are one and the same.
A thorough congressional investigation of all of the above is necessary before I will believe a word Al Gore says about a relationship between the climate and man-induced combustion of carbon.

123 posted on 11/23/2010 6:45:15 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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