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To: Mr. Silverback

It took you about six posts to mention that you were talking about Rick Warren’s camera and not the Sky2 photographer’s camera. But you keep saying his pic is “five minutes into launch.” Launch of what?


222 posted on 11/22/2010 7:54:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
I don't believe there was a launch; the object is an MD-11. However, I phrase it as "launch" when I'm asking how an SLBM could still be photographed by Warren five minutes later. The idea is to make the missile person tell me how that's possible. So far, no one has. I've had people ignore it, one say he has no answer and others insult me or claim Warren's photos are fake without offering evidence.

TXnMA put up a thread you may have seen in which he proves CBS lied about the video and has only provided a heavily edited "raw" version. Here's a graphic from that thread, showing the video synched up with Warren's photos:

The orange line is the flight path of UPS 902, BTW. With these time indices, I'd say it's no stretch to say the object had been producing contrail (if a missile, rocketing upwards) for at least 17 seconds. That would put us at T+5:00 by the last Warren shot. It would also mean Warren is photographing an object in or near outer space and hundreds of miles downrange, yet it appears almost exactly the same size it was a minute or two minutes before.

NASA uses purpose-built tracking cameras to follow the shuttle for the first 165 seconds of flight. They may use them for longer from other locations, the article I'm linking too is unclear, but in any case, they use these hulking tracking cameras so big and expensive that they refer to them ats "mounts," like a gun on a ship. These turrets must be manned by a technician, with tracking systems so precise that the heartbeat of the technician can affect their tracking. Yet at T+5:00, Warren is doing the same thing with a $900 Nikon (and no long lens), and Sky2 is doing it with...well, I'm not sure what they were packing, but it wasn't a NASA tracking camera.

If the object is an MD-11, taking a picture of it with a $900 Nikon is no big deal. If it's an SLBM, it's physically impossible.

227 posted on 11/22/2010 9:22:41 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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