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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Total complete BS. A typical WND BS story.

It was USAirlines/America West flight 808 from Hawaii to Phoenix. There is definitive radar track of it.

The supposed rocket exhaust was a regularly expanding density contrail.

The supposed rocket flame was simple reflection of the setting sun off the polished aluminum of the underside of the a/c, especially the wings. Note that the color temperature is the same as the reflection off the clouds.

After the video stops, hundreds of people reported they watched it continue northeast bound overhead.

The videographer who shot it said in a broadcast interview that he has seen this a number of times.

Multiple airline pilots who fly routinely west TRANSPAC at sunset say it is a routine illusion.

There were hundreds of commercial fishing and pleasure boats in the supposed launch area. The Shuttle is so loud it wakes us up 55 miles from the KSC. Boaters heard and saw nothing.

The geosynchronous orbit DSP satellites would have easily detected the IR of any launch. They are so sensitive, they routinely give false alarms over major POL fires. They saw nothing.

It's BS.... and WND knows it.

Any entity continuing to spread this BS is doing us all a disservice.

5 posted on 11/21/2010 12:04:12 PM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: MindBender26
A typical WND BS story

Reminiscent of the days of Ash, Michael Rivero, black helicopters, photos of secret compounds housing scores of white unmarked vans, never used detention camps......the list goes on. LOL!

A friend in NZ is trying to convince me the BP oil rig was taken out by a North Korean mini-sub........

8 posted on 11/21/2010 12:17:16 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: MindBender26
You say it was traveling “northeast” bound. It appeared to me to be traveling northwest. Either way, when viewed over the ocean off the Los Angeles coast, would that be the normal direction of the flight you specified?
10 posted on 11/21/2010 12:22:07 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: MindBender26
Agreed - another piece from a nut job website that does not do conservatives any favors.

In looking at the flight tracking data, it was IMO probably a UPS MD-11 from Hawaii to Ontario, California. Given its altitude, the plane was still far west of Catalina Island when the video and photos were shot at around 5:15 p.m. to 5:20 p.m. US Air Flight 808 was directly over Catalina shortly after 5:00 p.m. and would have probably been in the vicinity of Palm Springs by that time.

Since the “missile” was heading east, where did it land??

16 posted on 11/21/2010 12:40:36 PM PST by CALawyer
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To: MindBender26
“It was USAirlines/America West flight 808 from Hawaii to Phoenix. There is definitive radar track of it”

You read this on the internet, so it must be true!

It just took the Pentagon and NORAD several days to figure this out and put together this story with all those supporting witnesses,since it looks like the Americawest crew is too busy to appear and show/confirm their flight plan.

My God, call the DoD and offer your services, you may avert WW4.

30 posted on 11/21/2010 3:14:27 PM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: MindBender26
There is definitive radar track of it.

Link please. You'll be the first one to show it.

After the video stops, hundreds of people reported they watched it continue northeast bound overhead.

Link please. You'll be the first one to post it on FR.

The videographer who shot it said in a broadcast interview that he has seen this a number of times.

Link please. Again, you will be the first to post it here.

39 posted on 11/21/2010 6:38:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: MindBender26

The radar track shows it flying over Santa Catalina island, which is significantly south of the area where the missile was sighted.


45 posted on 11/21/2010 8:06:03 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: MindBender26

I used to live in a 3rd apartment on Point Fermin. I saw Catalina Island everyday from my bentwood rocker on my front patio. I also saw jet contrails like the one in the video quite often. When you first see them, your mind says “that is going straight up and flying away from me.” Then you watch it and finally realize that the plane is flying (relatively) toward you. The illusion is created because the earth is round. We know the earth is round intuitively, but we don’t use this knowledge regularly to process what we are seeing.

An object flying at constant altitude appears to be flying in an arc. The contrail width is greater where it emerges over the horizon and narrower at the plane which makes you think it is going away from you; that you are closer to the “base” of it.

FWIW, I’ve also see the sun glistening off the bottom of a plane. This phenomena is most prevalent when the sun has gone below your horizon.


60 posted on 11/24/2010 5:17:41 AM PST by IamConservative (Our collective common sense; the only thing a 1.5GPF toilet ever flushed on the first pull.)
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