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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; little jeremiah; grumpygresh; sionnsar; qwertypie; BigBobber; ...
As a hard core conservative, I agree with you [that more anti-bomb technology is a good thing]. The federal government should be tiny, but its main task is security. I’m all for better scanners, even if the next advance isn’t perfect for everyone. All of this hullabaloo about going “nude” in this scanner is exaggerated tripe that I would expect from liberals. No one is nude. Not even close.

The hollerers routinely go to medical clinics for safety’s sake and go actually nude, not “nude.” Or they go into a damn gym locker room, for pete’s sake. Or a men’s urinal, where privacy is a joke and where many other people can watch a person perform a bodily function.

Conservatives are not doing themselves a favor de-fanging airline security. Because this is where is it headed. Some of the libertarian fringe have come right out an said here on this site.

-- qwertypie#29
40 posted on 11/21/2010 4:45:39 PM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
“The hollerers routinely go to medical clinics for safety’s sake and go actually nude, not “nude.” “

You are actually comparing TSA mouth-breathers with doctors?

Seriously?

How about body cavity searches by the TSA, after all, doctors do rectal exams and TSA is only doing the poke and prod for our safety, and we do know that last year an assassin had a bomb up his backside and detonated it. . . .do it for SAFETY is the ultimate excuse for those that embrace the nanny state and abandon all claim to their civil rights.

Have a nice day.

41 posted on 11/21/2010 5:01:33 PM PST by Hulka
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To: samtheman

“Conservatives are not doing themselves a favor de-fanging airline security.”

I’m going to have to disagree with you on that one. I cannot think of any meaningful study or historical model that justifies screening ALL passengers with these devices. Can you think of any study that justify indiscriminate use of this technology?

That would be similar to requiring chest x-rays on all individuals several times a year to determine if they had lung CA. Sure, occasionally you might detect someone with lung CA or some other abnormality through indiscriminate screening. But it is highly unlikely that your diagnostic yield would be any greater for 100% screening than for targeting screening. Furthermore, false positives could lead to further interventions that could actually increase morbidity (a lung biopsy for example). In addition, because of limited resources, you are also wasting time and money that could be more profitably spent diagnosing other conditions.

The illusion of security by providing wasteful and unproven techniques is no substitute for the actual provision of security. This makes us LESS safe and I trust you are not for that. This is not a libertarian rant, this is a call for the prudent and effective use of resources.


48 posted on 11/21/2010 5:47:13 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: samtheman

All of this hullabaloo about going “nude” in this scanner is exaggerated tripe that I would expect from liberals. No one is nude. Not even close.


What’s your word for when someone creates a photographic image of your genitalia?

And when I pee, or visit the doctor, no one takes my picture.

PS: Tripe is delicious.


49 posted on 11/21/2010 5:59:03 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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