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I have no idea of how you are drawing your conclusions.

I am primarily a Roman Catholic social conservative and then a military and foreign policy conservative and criminal justice conservative and, in my youth, I was a libertarian party state officer but the libertarian reaction in support of abortion put an end to that just as the Demonrat reaction guaranteed that I would not ever consider being a member of the party of my ancestors.

I would also blame the Congressional Demonrats as well as Obamao for the economic mess we are in but somehow, with more than 50 million babies sliced, diced and hamburgerized allegedly under the rule of law, with perversions posing as "marriage" being crammed down our throats daily, I don't have much emotion left over for the terror suffered by those making more than a quarter of a million per year being jeopardized by having a mere 4.5% (of the 35% by which their taxes on that income have already been slashed courtesy of the election of Ronaldus Maximus by social conservatives, leaving them a net tax cut of 30.5%) restored to their tax bill.

This discussion between me and several here did not start over whether the taxes on the comfortable and comforted ought to be raised but rather over a hypothetical question. That question was as follows: IF the bulk of the Bush tax cuts such as the elimination of the estate tax (greatest boon to the wealthy of all Bush tax cuts), the elimination of the marriage penalty and cuts in middle class taxes could ONLY be preserved in a legislative deal allowing the 4.5% cut on taxes on income above $250,000 to expire, should that deal be made? Nothing prevents coming back later after the GOP dominated House is seated in January to get the rest and maybe more of tax cuts of all kinds.

I would make that deal which concededly would benefit me and many others here without harming very many of us at all. I grew up in a labor union family. I am not impressed at all by the hysteria over "class warfare" which is usually directed in reality against folks of modest means in favor of people who are quite comfortable whether they admit it or not. Those people of comfort have repeatedly (see Connecticut income tax revolt 1991 as one prime example) stabbed conservatives of more modest means inn the back for their own advantages (reducing investment taxes and sales taxes but establishing for the first time a 4.5% tax on wages and salaries translated as let the kid flipping burgers at Mickey D's pay taxes instead of Mr./Ms. Megabucks, Connecticut 1991). Meanwhile, John F'n Kerry of the Boston and Viet Cong Kerrys, parks his brand new yacht at Newport, Rhode Island to evade the sales and use tax imposed by Massachusetts on his new toy while Mickey O'Brien, a less fashionable guy, pays every nickel of sales and use tax on the ten-year old rusted out beater of an automobile that he uses to get to work at his modest job. Ditto the many abuses of Clan Kennedy, and of upper crust tax evaders and avoiders across the fruited plain. When they evade their taxes, we more modest folks pay more into the insatiable maw of gummint liberal spending (the real problem) but we are NOT to view these shenanigans as "class warfare against us.

In the Connecticut income tax war of 1991, one long-time wealthy contributor to taxpayer groups, a man solidly conservative, told the anti-tax leader that he would have to side with Weicker's income tax because if he were to support the resistance his materialistic wifey might divorce him. My reaction to hearing of this was to urge the rest of the tax rebels to drop the opposition to investment taxes. If the megabucks crowd whom we had ritually supported for decades would stab us in favor of Weicker, they should be divorced politically by us unless we look forward to a future as stooges.

The GOP is the only party capable of putting a stop to abortion in this country and to sexual perversion posing as "marriage." It is the only party that has a foreign policy backbone since McGovern seized the Democrat Party permanently for its communist fringe nuts in 1972, the only party that will develop and deploy weapons systems and to fight wars as necessary. It is also the party of resistance to gummint regulation and taxation (although our pampered upper crust are all too susceptible in their political naivete to green everything and environmental whackoism and racial hucksterism and feminaziism and, rather than investing in American jobs, specialize in exporting those jobs to Bangladesh in an effort to approach taking every nickel produced as a limit). I have been a sole proprietor and sole proprietors do NOT "claim all of their revenue as income," just all of their NET income, not unlike those who work in their businesses and that is a result of the proprietor limiting his taxes by choosing IRS Code Subchapter S as his/her form of business organization. In perfect obedience to the IRS Code, you can deduct a lot of personal expenses against your business income, a luxury not available to those earning wages or salaries. In any event, the argument was only about income above the $250,000 level (the highest bracket income only). The argument is not about raising the rate on any income for anybody below that $250,000 level.

I see no boost whatsoever in the economy from increases in taxes or increases in gummint spending. I would abolish the gummint skewels which squander record levels of money from everyone with almost no visible return on the spending except lining the pockets of the privileged on the gummint skewel payrolls. I would abolish OSHA. I would abolish many State Department functions, the entire Department of Energy, the entire Department of "Education," every non-defense expenditure of the Pentagon, most foreign military bases, the EPA, the Bureau of Land Management and that just scratches the surface. Give me a free hand and you would need Sherlock Holmes and a few million crack bloodhounds to track down what little would remain. Sharply curtail the resources of the federal courts which have too much money and too many employees on their hands to avoid sticking the judicial nose where it belongeth not. I would not pay reparations to 85,000 people of the 14,000 applying for same as allegedly abused black and American Indian farmers to the tune of $6 or $8 billion out of Obamao's "stash" of our tax money nor one nickel for affirmative action for anyone, wealthy or modest of means. Welfare schemes would be a bad memory. HUD likewise. Federal block grants. Subsidies to "higher education." University studies of the sex lives of furbisher louseworts or of just about any other university "studies" not related to studies of physics necessary to the development of first rate weapons systems. Need I go on? That is a small sample of the words and the music.

Neither our nation nor any other has EVER spent its way out of recession or depression but you knew that or you would not have asked. I do not propose to determine who most deserves largesse. The market will do that which is why God invented the market. I would keep the largesse from being funneled into the pockets of Obamao's buddies like it is now by eliminating the largesse for them and everyone else. What the gummint has not grabbed the gummint cannot give away or funnel to anyone.

I got started in conservatism (I confess) as a teenager in support of Barry Goldwater. When I eventually learned of his status as a social anarchist who bragged about bringing his own daughter to an abortion mill and who supported the homosexuality of other descendants, I had solid proof that supporting him was a grave mistake.

Other than that, about 46 years of experience in the conservative movement, being a state chairmen of Young Americans for Freedom, Young Republicans, College Republicans, the Conservative Union, a GOP Congressional nominee, a GOP Town Committee Chairman, a delegate to several GOP state conventions, active involvement in leadership in two state tax revolts (one successful and one not), representing as an attorney (without fees) 1100 arrested pro-lifers (very few convicted) and arrested NRA members (none convicted), among many other things, is how I know what I know. What I am arguing against here is what I hear every day on the radio from Rush and Sean and Mark yakking against "class warfare" but actually practicing it. I have no more interest in taxing people for being successful than I have in business news (which is to say practically none) or stock market reports or on the invention of technical wonders such as mythical variable veeblefritzers. I am obsessed instead with the Catholic Faith and New York Yankees baseball and to some extent with increasingly rare tolerable entertainment such as old movies, Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Dean Martin, 1950s doo-wop, Buddy Holly, the Beach Boys and ABBA, truly great gangster movies, David Lean films such as Dr. Zhivago, musicals like Chicago, the Wind and the Lion, The Agony and the Ecstasy, GWTW, Meg Ryan (a classic Fairfield, CT beach bunny). I hate the Beatles and most music after them. The Rolling Stones are reprehensible human beings but made good music. I believe in social normality. I also had a Jesuit prep school education soooo long ago that the Jebbies were still Catholic and furiously so. I also believe in the infinite variety, fascinating nature and miraculous hospitality of the exceptional young ladies of my own distant youth, aging, no doubt gracefully, wherever they may be today. And also, male and female, young and old, conservative and not, of any race or creed whose intellectual companionship has always made life worthwhile. My working class parents and relatives and their working class friends, nobly struggling and generally succeeding economically against the tide, stumbling from time to time and always coming back with determination. AND my Irish grandmother with an attitude from Cork by way of South Boston and a supporter of the sainted James Michael Curley in his wars against Fitzgeralds and Kennedys.

A non-negotiable fact is that the greatest exemplar of the automakers' craft was the incomparable Ford-powered 427 cubic inch, Dual Overhead Cam, Shelby Cobra (not Mustang Cobra). Add two wings and you could go airborne with ease. That car and its little brother with the 289 power plant sent Enzo Ferrari back to the drawing board and drove a lot of their victims out of racing.

Conservatism is a far richer and more complex tapestry than is supposed by many here. I have yet to meet a genuine "fiscal conservative." They are either liberal cheapskates or phonies. I know plenty of conservatives who are not class warriors against their own folks of modest means but partake fully in the rest of conservatism. Conservatives oppose taxation even for other people but it is not a life or death issue and they tend to shun obsessive materialism for its own sake.

Long though this post may be, I trust that I have answered your questions. If not, ask further.