Posted on 11/20/2010 11:13:22 AM PST by re_tail20
THREE MINUTES at Logan Airport ruined my day. s I arrived at the airport Monday for a flight to Detroit. I went through the security drill shoes, belt, and coat off, laptop out, liquids in a baggie, pockets empty but instead of the customary path through the metal detector, a Transportation Security Administration employee shunted me off to a new machine. It was one I had heard of but never passed through a whole body imaging machine, the virtual strip search. I obediently positioned my feet where told, raised my hands as instructed and then, in a moment of sudden rebellion, objected.
You want to opt out? a guard asked.
I dont want to go through that, I said.
From several TSA employees came cries of Opt out! Male opt out! I was pulled over to the side and told I would be searched.
The TSA has just recently implemented what it euphemistically calls an enhanced patdown. The agent firmly ran his hands over my entire body, head to toe, front and back. He rubbed his hands over my buttocks and in between. He put his hands in my pants and ran them all around my waist. From behind, he ran his hands along my legs, all the way up my thigh as high as he could go and onto my genitals.
Then he moved in front of me and then did the same thing again. Remember the question once asked of candidate Bill Clinton: Boxers or briefs? My TSA examiner knows.
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
Agree. The next time a TSA agent gropes you smile and say “Don’t worry. I like it when strange men touch my junk.”Reverse psychology will get them every time. If anything you’ll probably get a less through search because
1)No homosexual in his/her right mind would be a jihadist, given al Qaeda’s view on homosexuality
2) No TSA agent in his right mind wants you to come all over his hand.
You're right, "nobody has to fly anywhere."
In fact, the next time I need to cross the Atlantic Ocean to make my living, I'll just drive. Why didn't I think of that - it's the "obvious soloution."
I’m sure you could make a living without going to europe. 99%+ of people do just fine without that.
“Everyone is missing the obvious solution to this. Drive. Nobody has to fly anywhere. Put the airline business out of its misery once and for all.”
It occurs to me that the above may well be exactly what the Obama administration actually has in mind. Just another major industry bankrupted and taken over by the government.
This would go well beyound just the airlines. Most avaition equipment producers would join them.
Be careful what you wish for.
They are required, by law, to have their DHS ID on them at work, and their SIDA is to be worn and displayed at all times. Read the badge number and commit it to memory or write it down the first chance you get. That will be sufficient for your lawyer to obtain the identity of the official.
Refusing to self-identify betrays their own acknowledgment that they are acting over the line in illegal territory. Unless they properly identify themselves, how do we know that they are who their uniform claims they are and are authorized to be doing what they’re doing? They are in a catch-22 on that matter.
Opt out day should be a day where no one flies. Can you say Airlines panic?
I went through the full body scan with no incident. My wonderful DH then went through the full body scan, as well. THEN the TSA screeners decided he also needed to go through the "intimate pat down" ... and ordered him to stand in a special area for quite a few minutes. Then they frisked him. Thoroughly.
THEN they decided to re-x-ray his boots (which he'd taken off) two MORE times. For a total of three x-rays in total. This whole process took nearly 30 minutes, from start to finish, and by the time he refilled his pockets, put his watch back on, retrieved his personal items, and put his boots back on.
While my husband was getting "examined", the TSA guys waved at least three other civilian adult males through ... they just go the standard metal detector ... and not the body scan, the pat down, or three shoe x-rays.
How can they say our flight was "safer" when they groped my husband while letting others through without the body scan or pat down? It was hard not to feel singled out by this special treatment we received. While I will get to go through all of this on November 30 when I fly back home to California ... I take some small measure of solace that my wonderful DH won't have to deal with this again ~ at least until next year. He's deploying back to Iraq for the seventh time and will be on military transport.
I think the DA of San Francisco County has jurisdiction over SFO, as it is San Francisco property and the San Francisco Police have a station at SFO. Regardless, I think SF also will prosecute. Even they want only voluntary sex between parties.
I’ve changed my stance on this. Too many reports coming out of abuse. And whatever happened to the search laws? Apparently don’t apply here.
You're quite talented, being so "sure" of my life situation after meeting me on this thread.
You're actually correct, I "could make a living without going to europe." That's because I don't go to Europe now to make a living. I do however fly trans-Atlantic.
I understand that you have all kinds of bright ideas for people like me, but the fact remains that I simply couldn't do what I do without getting on a plane. Period.
You need to learn the difference between ‘wants’ and ‘needs’.
You know, you're right. I'm going to stop flying right now. Of course I won't be able to pay my bills, but impoverishing my family is a small price to pay for making a point with the TSA. It's the "obvious solution."
When my little girl is wondering why we have to move out of our house and why daddy is home all the time (unemployment in my area is well into the double digits) I'll just tell her the brilliant person on the internet said we need to learn the difference between wants and needs.
Thanks for the advice.
Unreal, huh? We should ask these people, what if the next step from TSA would be to slap you in the face to see if you have a "terrorist reaction". Would they submit to that? And, would they submit to the "next step", whatever that would be?
The police can’t even search your house or car without “probable cause” or warrant. Why is the TSA allowed to pull somone out of line “randomley” to be searched? No probable cause, no questioning, just hey you, over here?
The good news, Cardhu, is that the soon-to-be Republican controlled House will be in charge of the purse strings.
Let’s see, starting in January, if the GOP will rein in this monster of a government agency known as the TSA.
Like you, I’m not optimistic this will happen, but I would like to be proven wrong.
Under 18 U.S. Code Chapter 109A Sexual Abuse - Code Section 2244 Abusive Sexual Contact Defined under Code Section 2246 Definitions for Chapter - Subsection 3) the term sexual contact means the intentional touching, either directly or through the clothing, of the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh or buttocks of any person with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;
At the very least 2244 and 2246 are being violated with any contact of the genitalia even through the clothing is a criminal act. Notice the clarifier: "With an INTENT to....HUMILIATE...HARASS.....DEGRADE...." We have the statements of TSA higher ups that the purpose of these 'pat downs' is to force people into the scanner. He admits to harrassment and humiliation of passengers per the above code. They've upped the ante more than once to be subject to prosecution under Title 18, Sections 2242, 2244, and 2246.
Then there is 49 U.S.C. § 40103 US Code - Section 40103: Sovereignty and use of airspace - (2) A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit through the navigable airspace.
There goes the threat that 'if you don't like it don't fly' bit we keep hearing. NO. U.S. Citizens has a RIGHT OF TRANSIT through the navigable airspace! Without being molested, harrassed, abused, strip searched without cause, or violated.
Its time for LAWSUITS. A LOT OF THEM!
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