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Airports consider congressman's call to ditch TSA
Associated Press ^ | 11/19/2010 | MIKE SCHNEIDER

Posted on 11/19/2010 1:12:09 AM PST by anymouse

In a climate of Internet campaigns to shun airport pat-downs and veteran pilots suing over their treatment by government screeners, some airports are considering another way to show dissatisfaction: Ditching TSA agents altogether.

Federal law allows airports to opt for screeners from the private sector instead. The push is being led by a powerful Florida congressman who's a longtime critic of the Transportation Security Administration and counts among his campaign contributors some of the companies who might take the TSA's place.

Furor over airline passenger checks has grown as more airports have installed scanners that produce digital images of the body's contours, and the anger intensified when TSA added a more intrusive style of pat-down recently for those who opt out of the full-body scans. Some travelers are using the Internet to organize protests aimed at the busy travel days next week surrounding Thanksgiving.

For Republican Rep. John Mica of Florida, the way to make travelers feel more comfortable would be to kick TSA employees out of their posts at the ends of the snaking security lines. This month, he wrote letters to nation's 100 busiest airports asking that they request private security guards instead.

"I think we could use half the personnel and streamline the system," Mica said Wednesday, calling the TSA a bloated bureaucracy.

Mica is the ranking Republican on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. Once the new Congress convenes in January, the lawmaker is expected lead the committee.

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"In her eyes, the pat-down is a physical molestation and the WBI scanner is not only intrusive, degrading and potentially dangerous, but poses a real and substantial threat to medical privacy," the lawsuit states.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airport; gropeandchange; optout; security; tsa; tsapervs; yeswescan
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1 posted on 11/19/2010 1:12:16 AM PST by anymouse
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To: anymouse

Rush: Obama groping flyers to punish them for voting GOP - ‘This is all about control...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2629003/posts


2 posted on 11/19/2010 1:15:19 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: anymouse

He’s going to have to be really tough because the commie unions are panting for the dues.


3 posted on 11/19/2010 1:17:32 AM PST by bronxville
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To: anymouse

Use private scanners but also have govt employees watch them to prevent abuse (we don’t want private gropers either!) and test out the system for flaws. Govt employees won’t go after their own but if there’s one thing they know what to do, it’s to go after anyone else.


4 posted on 11/19/2010 1:20:08 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: anymouse

Orlando Sanford International Airport has decided to opt out from TSA screening.


5 posted on 11/19/2010 1:27:24 AM PST by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Use Foreign Pressure on the US/Obama, too.

Get the Foreign Ministries of major countries, like UK, Japan, Korea, Germany, France, India, etc., to issue TRAVEL ADVISORIES on their official webpages (like the State Department does on it), warning their foreign nationals that they may be subject to intrusive and rude if not obscene physical treatment by US aiport authorities on the occasion of their US visit, and that they may also enter foreign data base (i.e. USA and not their home country) in visual form, as being nearly naked. Also that challenging US airport authorities, even politely, could land one in a US prison or with a hefty fine.

I know some countries that will be ready to do this very, very soon. When that happens, all hell will break loose. The s-pot can be further stirred that when these advisories appear, the foreign press in those countries also do print and TV stories on the TSA "overreach". It will spread like a grassfire.

6 posted on 11/19/2010 1:33:35 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (As Big Jim Thompson sez: "Romney supporter? Then, go make up a "Wankers for Mitt" website & leave!")
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To: ari-freedom

Use private scanners but also have govt employees watch them to prevent abuse

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Why not have private scanners watch each other? Why should people who never fly subsidize the TSA? Why does government need to eternally grow? When government grows, why MUST the employees unionize? Why was a government agency the answer after 9/11?

Here’s the $64,000 question ...

Why can’t we just profile for terrorists the way Israeli El/Al does?


7 posted on 11/19/2010 1:34:34 AM PST by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Wouldn’t Russia, China, Greece, the 57 Islamic states and Central/South America love that idea?!


8 posted on 11/19/2010 1:38:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: anymouse

This stuff boggles my mind and makes me laugh. My last plane ride was in February 2001, and I cannot see myself ever going near an airport again, except maybe to pick up somebody out front.


9 posted on 11/19/2010 1:42:43 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ROTB

“Why not have private scanners watch each other? “

Because we want to make sure that they are following the law. I don’t think a private police force would work because they have no power to do anything if some perverted scanner tries to grope a kid.

“Why should people who never fly subsidize the TSA? Why does government need to eternally grow? When government grows, why MUST the employees unionize? Why was a government agency the answer after 9/11?”

There shouldn’t be a TSA. I think that we should use people from the military to keep the scanners straight, not some unionized bureaucrat.
This is also part of protecting our borders. People from all over the world come here via plane. The 9/11 terrorists didn’t sneak in here from Mexico.

“Here’s the $64,000 question ...
Why can’t we just profile for terrorists the way Israeli El/Al does?”

We should move in that direction but remember that Israel’s air traffic is much smaller and their exact system of profiling would take a long time.


10 posted on 11/19/2010 1:57:34 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“I know some countries that will be ready to do this very, very soon. When that happens, all hell will break loose.”

the economic impact would be very traumatizing.


11 posted on 11/19/2010 1:59:56 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: ari-freedom

The public is the watchdog and the best arbiter of all as they are also the customer. Private companies exist because of customer service. If they start abusing their relationship with the customer, it’s as easy as deciding on Burger King over McDonalds to change customer service.

All of this crap began after they took away the responsibility of airport security from the airlines in the first place. Now if we put it in the hands of each local airport, the distance to the source of control will be at the customer level, right there and now. Next we deal with this a couple of years and then clean house again because the RINOs, Progressives and Democrats are already stacking the excrement pile before the next Congress is even given a chance to get sworn in. If they think the Tea Parties were a problem in the last cycle, their heads are going to explode this next one.

The thing that aggrivated me about this story I read last night was the carping about Mica receiving money from PAC’s for private security companies. When one looks at the amounts, he received less from each than the maximum allowable individual limits each year. So where is the quid pro quo AP? Never have we seen any insight on Barney Frank or Chris Dodd, now have we?


12 posted on 11/19/2010 2:00:25 AM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: ari-freedom

Of course it would. And who wants that? Thats why they have to drop this Big Brother/Big Government harrassment of the average Americans and others who do not fit the profile, and get with the program and PROFILE, and particularly go after young muslim males for triple extra scrutiny.


13 posted on 11/19/2010 2:07:27 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (As Big Jim Thompson sez: "Romney supporter? Then, go make up a "Wankers for Mitt" website & leave!")
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To: anymouse

crotch inspectors working for a private
company would be no better than
those working for the government


14 posted on 11/19/2010 2:08:39 AM PST by Talf
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To: anymouse

We also need to do away with all the TSA laws...and the pro-Islamic Terrorist political correctness, too...

The TSA is bad enough....But, I do not want a minimum-wage rent-a-cop grabbing my package, either. Also, I find that every time the government goes to out-sourcing/privitization....they spend more money than they would hiring on their own. That minimum-wage private security/law enforcement usually costs at least 30 bucks per hour when you rent it privately from a contractor....more tax dollars spent


15 posted on 11/19/2010 2:30:01 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Free Trade, Open Borders, Illegal Alien Amnesty: You support these...you do not support America)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

PLUS they are going to be UNIONIZED!!! PENSIONS and PERKS PAID BY S FOREVER!!


16 posted on 11/19/2010 2:50:50 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
I see forsee a big market for selling--or better yet, renting for several days, (for busy American business traveler road warriors) of Muslim attire in little little stop-n-go shops opening up maybe about a mile or so away from major and intermediate American airports along the main entrance thoroughfares, for regular, average Americans, to change into just prior to being seen off at the curb or parking and flying. Just think, Americans could change into:

or for women, into:

or maybe even:

Not get TSA-groped and felt up by even 1/3rd of the level, and maybe not even nude backscatter scanned.

Yep. An entrepreneur's dream in flow with POLITICAL CORRECTNESS gone wild.

/sarc

17 posted on 11/19/2010 3:07:55 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (As Big Jim Thompson sez: "Romney supporter? Then, go make up a "Wankers for Mitt" website & leave!")
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To: anymouse

been checking out the reaction to all this on DU the last couple days. Not much. (yes, I sanitized...)

BUT FINALLY TODAY, I see 2 articles - “What’s the Difference between a convict & an airline passenger”

AND, “Boston Globe editorial against TSA latest actions.

So, things should start to happen soon...


18 posted on 11/19/2010 3:28:12 AM PST by Paisan
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To: Lancey Howard
This stuff boggles my mind and makes me laugh. My last plane ride was in February 2001, and I cannot see myself ever going near an airport again, except maybe to pick up somebody out front.

Exactly. Mine was Sept 2001. I should add that to my tag line! This is how the government makes our lives poorer.

19 posted on 11/19/2010 3:34:27 AM PST by Old_Grouch (63 and AARP-free. Monthly FR contributor.)
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To: anymouse

Obama is pulling forces out of Iraq and Afghanistan who search people all day long for explosives in their clothes. These returning soldiers ought to finish their tours of duty inspecting travelers at the airports. They are experts, not TSA flunkies, and they work cheap. Situation solved.


20 posted on 11/19/2010 3:53:30 AM PST by kittymyrib
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