When was the last time you heard of a life saving medical innovation coming out of Sweden or Finland? So much for socialism working.
BTW I play online poker at Full Tilt poker and listen to Europeans (Germans and Scandinavians mostly) b*tch about the taxes they pay and the cost of everything from gas to beer.
My sister married a Dutchman and they have been quite happy with their system despite the high taxes.
My brother in law’s father is way better off with his government pension than our mother with social security.
But as I said, once the population changes and the attitudes toward a free ride change then it starts crumbling. And, I also think if they had to pay full price for their own defense it would strain their systems significantly.
Anyway, that’s just IMHO.