You sound just like the Whigs on slavery.
You can sing "Kumbaya" or shut your eyes or do whatever else it is that the libertarian utopianists have told you will work, but the FACT is that a baby is being murdered EVERY 24 SECONDS in the United States. I am no longer interested in any solution that is conditioned on the hope that people change minds.
Imho, part of the problem is that it appears that there are posters who are confusing thought and action. Laws address actions, not thoughts or beliefs.
There also seems to be confusion over the purpose of laws. A law cannot prevent murder, for example, and the fact that it does not completely eradicate crime is not evidence that it is inappropriate or ineffective.
If you think that outlawing it will stop it then you are dreaming. It should be taught it is morally better to keep the baby alive and and have it adopted then aborted. Slavery, through constant repeating was though of as morally wrong in the North before the Civil War not after.Passing laws changed no ones mind. I am against abortion but if we can reduce the federal government and make it a states right it will make the fight one we can win. To win this fight we need more than 50% of the people behind us. Not everyone is as passionate about it as you are. Are you willing to give up over one issue? Because if you do then they have won. You will never see abortion outlawed and will see euthanasia.
I for one will fight to gain ground against what I see as a bigger problem than one issue. I see many issues that need to be changed and every step towards that goal is one more forward.
When a majority of pepole see that conservatisim is the right way we can tackle issues that the liberals have forced on us.
Wagglebee,
It’s fascinating to me, an atheist, to see these people who post about theocracy because so many conservatives are religious believers.
The poster who pouted about this (I believe you said he’s gone) was stunningly ignorant on even the meaning of separation of church vs. state. (I’m not interested in discussing the broader issue, just want to focus on this most common dead horse of the left.)
These folks seem to have a problem with the SOURCE of people’s feelings about abortion and such. Just because religious belief is the source of one’s morality has ZERO to do with church and state. Believers also say murder is wrong and should be punished by the state—by this logic, murder should be legal, because people are against it because their religion says so.
The point—and these folks can’t seem to get this, because the truth is they are hiding their anti-Christian bigotry behind the screen of “separation of church and state”—is whether one can justify the enforcement of a belief within a Constitutional framework. It does’t matter if God, or Moses, or Jesus, or Ben Franklin, or Abe Lincoln, or Reagan, or my aunt, or my dad or WHO inspired the belief for or against abortion, for example—what matters is how defensible that belief is Constitutionally. THAT’S ALL that matters.
But some folks see belief coming from belief in Christ, and “Theocracy!!!!”
It’s the kind of thing that makes me laugh at the liberals/atheists I encounter all the time here in Boston. They hate Christianity, and that’s all that’s needed for others to think they are somehow enlightened and must have a background in “logic” and facts. They don’t, but no one cares; as long as they hate the proper enemies, it’s assumed they’re smart.