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To: ChurtleDawg
So a $1.00 item will be $1.10 whether there is a 10% VAT or a 10% sales tax

A 10% sales tax is 10% ONCE.

A 10% VAT is a 10% tax at every step of development
E.G a product with 5 steps of development at 10% => ~50% tax


23 posted on 11/15/2010 9:55:45 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

wrong. A VAT only taxes the value added at each stage. It does not tax the total value of the product.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_added_tax

here is how it works:

Without any tax
A widget manufacturer spends $1.00 on raw materials and uses them to make a widget.
The widget is sold wholesale to a widget retailer for $1.20, making a gross margin of $0.20.
The widget retailer then sells the widget to a widget consumer for $1.50, making a gross margin of $0.30.

With a 10% sales tax:-

The manufacturer pays $1.00 for the raw materials, certifying it is not a final consumer.
The manufacturer charges the retailer $1.20, checking that the retailer is not a consumer, leaving the same gross margin of $0.20.
The retailer charges the consumer $1.65 ($1.50 + ($1.50 x 10%)) and pays the government $0.15, leaving the gross margin of $0.30.

With a 10% VAT:

The manufacturer pays $1.10 ($1 + ($1 x 10%)) for the raw materials, and the seller of the raw materials pays the government $0.10.
The manufacturer charges the retailer $1.32 ($1.20 + ($1.20 x 10%)) and pays the government $0.02 ($0.12 minus $0.10), leaving the same gross margin of $0.20. ($1.32 - $0.02 - $1.10 = $0.20)
The retailer charges the consumer $1.65 ($1.50 + ($1.50 x 10%)) and pays the government $0.03 ($0.15 minus $0.12), leaving the same gross margin of $0.30 ($1.65 - $0.03 - $1.32 = $0.30).


28 posted on 11/15/2010 11:17:26 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

wrong. A VAT only taxes the value added at each stage. It does not tax the total value of the product.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_added_tax

here is how it works:

Without any tax
A widget manufacturer spends $1.00 on raw materials and uses them to make a widget.
The widget is sold wholesale to a widget retailer for $1.20, making a gross margin of $0.20.
The widget retailer then sells the widget to a widget consumer for $1.50, making a gross margin of $0.30.

With a 10% sales tax:-

The manufacturer pays $1.00 for the raw materials, certifying it is not a final consumer.
The manufacturer charges the retailer $1.20, checking that the retailer is not a consumer, leaving the same gross margin of $0.20.
The retailer charges the consumer $1.65 ($1.50 + ($1.50 x 10%)) and pays the government $0.15, leaving the gross margin of $0.30.

With a 10% VAT:

The manufacturer pays $1.10 ($1 + ($1 x 10%)) for the raw materials, and the seller of the raw materials pays the government $0.10.
The manufacturer charges the retailer $1.32 ($1.20 + ($1.20 x 10%)) and pays the government $0.02 ($0.12 minus $0.10), leaving the same gross margin of $0.20. ($1.32 - $0.02 - $1.10 = $0.20)
The retailer charges the consumer $1.65 ($1.50 + ($1.50 x 10%)) and pays the government $0.03 ($0.15 minus $0.12), leaving the same gross margin of $0.30 ($1.65 - $0.03 - $1.32 = $0.30).


29 posted on 11/15/2010 11:17:36 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I think what you are talking about is a cascading tax system, which what the VAT was designed to avoid-—where the full sales tax cost is passed on and on and on, getting larger.


30 posted on 11/15/2010 11:25:41 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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