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To: counterpunch

Your post is an island of common sense and clear thought amid an ocean of yammering fools.


332 posted on 11/15/2010 1:59:41 AM PST by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: chilltherats
Your post is an island of common sense and clear thought amid an ocean of yammering fools.

And counterpunch got banned for his comments here.

...The Right is on a roll. The people writing that letter don’t want to see us snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Big Queers and Big Abortion are not taking over the Tea Party simply because they don’t want the movement to get sidetracked or hijacked by social conservatives.

Don’t fight with them. That’s just what the left wants to see. Don’t turn the Tea Party into a social issues movement or you’ll take us all down with you. Our grip is fragile. If you start a fight within the TP over social issues by pushing our conservative social agenda, soon enough you’ll be fighting with Big Queers and Big Abortion over who gets to steer the Titanic.

It can just as easily be said that trying to draw conservatives into pushing their social agenda on the TP is a cynical tactic to suck in people who just want to restore fiscal sanity to this country and otherwise mind their own business which is what they want you and me to do.

Why the hell is it that the right can never let a good thing play out in their favor? Why is there always such a burning need to shoot themselves and the rest of us in the foot? Why must we always lose because you people have to have instant gratification? You have no patience. You have to get on your damn high horses and insist on everything you want RIGHT NOW and anybody who doesn’t agree with that tactic and your demands is a RINO/troll/fool/loser/gutless/whatever so you’re just going to pick up your marbles and go home, sulk and name-call like a petulant child. Stay home and don’t vote so we can end up with an asshole like zero to wreak havoc on the entire country and beyond for a minimum of four years. Brilliant.

Grow up, for crissakes. Gather some wisdom. Develop strategies from observations and shrewdness instead of emotional needs and some sense of “I’m right, I’m principled, so I’m just going to stand here in self-righteous indignation and show my entire hand to the opposition.” Get a clue (and this isn’t directed to you alone - there are plenty others here who think the same way).

Another poster here made the comparison of being attacked by two deadly snakes at once as an example of being forced to act on two fronts at once or the one you don't fight will kill you. So standing up for moral principles is important too.

But as to the exact way of going about things - For instance how to teach people and especially young impressionable kids that irresponsible sex is not a desirable thing - in this current cultural climate - is something I really would not know how to do.

Yes, the people who home school and watch over their children are doing it right, but that still leaves the majority of society that is quite content to send their kids to the government schools and let the tv be their babysitter.

In my opinion, the best course of action would be to focus on removing government funding for those programs that support the encouragement of (by removing the personal liabilities for) irresponsible and/or destructive behavior. Then I figure people will figure things out for themselves that maybe those social conservative types do have some pretty good ideas after all.

I do know that the other side is real big on getting funding from the federal and state governments, and also from big business. Fighting hate crimes and supporting diversity, don't you know. But they are really saying that some people are deserving of more protections than others and that being gay is just like being born black, etc.

Safe schools and anti-bullying programs have a lot of tolerance and acceptance of LGBT (Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender) lifestyles build into them - the people that designed these programs are smart - killing these programs is going to look like you are supporting bullying behavior against vulnerable kids, for instance.

But, in my opinion, killing the funding to these types of programs which sound good but have the effect of building up a new generation of activists for these causes is something that is clear cut and do-able and will be what hurts them and their ability to influence society and the political landscape the most.

Aside from all of that... Some issues and subjects evoke just too much emotion for any hope of a rational discussion to even bring up on Free Republic. Anything relating to the "Homosexual Agenda" seems to be at the top of that list.

So it is best not even to try to discuss it here. Too much risk of getting zotted by friendly fire...


356 posted on 11/15/2010 4:58:46 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: chilltherats

Uh - counterpunch got punched out of FR by the boss.

I guess his “common sense” diddn’t smell so nice.


401 posted on 11/15/2010 8:46:18 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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