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To: rogue yam
Let's think about history a bit.

Traditional social mores were never chiefly sustained or enforced by the power of the government (federal or state). They were sustained and enforced privately: in the family, the church, neighborhood, and the workplace. By the far the most important thing the government did was not be in the way.

Without papering over important differences, we all ought to be able to figure out a way to get behind the campaign to stop the liberal elite from taxing and regulating us into living our lives the way they think is proper.
170 posted on 11/14/2010 6:45:37 PM PST by only1percent
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To: only1percent
By the far the most important thing the government did was not be in the way.

Too late. The government is not only in the way, it is aggressively pushing forward with so-called hate-crime legislation, government-supported abortion and euthanasia hidden in footnotes of Obamacare, promotion of gay marriage through the courts, and forcing open the military ranks to practicing homosexuals.

Liberals today are hell bent on using government to promote abortion, homosexuality, the destruction of the traditional family, and to silence and marginalize those who are opposed to this despicable agenda. To concentrate on fiscal conservatism to the exclusion of these important social issues is to cede a vital front of the war to the enemy.

The war is already joined. We cannot remain passive. This war MUST be fought on BOTH fronts. Lose either front, and we will ultimately lose the war.

182 posted on 11/14/2010 6:56:53 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: only1percent
Traditional social mores were never chiefly sustained or enforced by the power of the government (federal or state)...By far the most important thing the government did was not be in the way.

That was then, this is now. Now the government, and in particular the schools, are the main engines for promoting leftism and immorality. This battle has been raging for decades. We cannot unilaterally disarm. So long as our federal and state governments privilege and promote homosexuality, abortion and atheism then we will continue to produce "citizens" who lack the morality and rationality to provide for themselves and will instead vote for subjugation to the government.

Without papering over important differences, we all ought to be able to figure out a way to get behind the campaign to stop the liberal elite from taxing and regulating us into living our lives the way they think is proper.

Telling schoolchildren that they must accept homosexuality (and worse) as moral and that there is no God is the worst-spent government funding and the worst-conceived government regulation there is.

I agree that these things should not be federal issues. (They only are due to leftist judicial activism.) They should be decided in State legislatures (not courts). But the Tea Party movement is directed at all levels of government and I believe that Tea Party candidates for State legislature seats should campaign on all issues, including abortion, homosexuality, and government-enforced atheism.

187 posted on 11/14/2010 7:02:55 PM PST by rogue yam
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