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Avoid Social Issues, GOP Urged (Homosexualists, Pro-Aborts Co-opt Tea Party Movement)
Politico ^ | Sunday, November 14, 2010 | Ben Smith and Byron Tau

Posted on 11/14/2010 3:38:40 PM PST by kristinn

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To: WaterBoard

Bullhockey!! >:-(


481 posted on 11/15/2010 11:58:42 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: RockyMtnMan

If you you continue preaching against our fight for God and Liberty, then you’ll be asked to preach it from some other soap box. It’s NOT appreciated here!


482 posted on 11/15/2010 11:59:55 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Bokababe

[You cannot just change the moral framework based on just legislating it.]

Not suggesting that’s the case.

You ever see the poster, popular back in the 70’s, of the mouse extending a certain finger to an eagle it’s about to be eaten by?

Well, it's like that.

When moral miscreant Pirates dress in Earl Gray sheepskin and DEMAND that the rest of us not interfere with THEIR legislative implementation of THEIR agenda - or else they’ll burn down the “Fiscally Conservative” economic village...

"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY
TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--
Thomas Jefferson

...it’s like that.

483 posted on 11/15/2010 12:01:15 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: kristinn
The social breakdown led to the big government. Social issues should be at the very heart of the TEA party. Instead of going after the symptoms, why not go after the cause?
Out of wedlock births have led to billions in government spending and growth each year. AIDs has cost the American citizen a fortune. Abortion has led to unfettered, unprotected sex, which has lead to tax payer paid abortions, school condoms and indoctrination class, and massive over use of antibiotics, for example.
Name one left wing lifestyle that hasn't cost the American taxpayer a penny!
484 posted on 11/15/2010 12:02:18 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Pan_Yan

I agree. And from what i see, nearly nobody is pro-abourt or pro-gay agenda here. The difference is how to fight it. Some think strategically, some are tactical only. The truth is that both have a place.

I just side with the crowd that thinks radical economic reform can almost completely solve the “social issue” problems.

To me, the bitterness aimed at those of us who think constitutional fiscal conservatism is the answer, is like wanting to shoot down every Zero, and being angry at the guys wasting their time back home in Utah,,,,, as they spend each day practicing the dropping of one oddly-shaped bomb.

We are on the same side, with the same goals. Some of you would do well to remember that neither approach won the war alone. And that there is a time for both.

The TEA movement was financial,, and gave us a B-29 sitting on the runway.


485 posted on 11/15/2010 12:02:18 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: WaterBoard

I won’t give you another warning. FR is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-God-given Liberty!! We fight like hell for Life and Liberty!! Don’t like it? Leave already!!


486 posted on 11/15/2010 12:02:41 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: metmom
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I've wondered many times about some people being in 'deep cover' for years here on FR, now I have no doubt! Let the ZOTting commence!
487 posted on 11/15/2010 12:07:40 PM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: RockyMtnMan
[Liberals are currently vulnerable on fiscal policy and will likely try to move the debate to social issues to avoid being bludgeoned to death.]
 
But it was the process of demoralization that CREATED the Fatal economic Liberality presently manifested in the imploding financial infrastructure.
 
Who taught folks it was OK to Lie?  Was it morally upstanding citizens - or morally degenerated progressive liberals and organized criminals?
 
It's very clever - the agenda to defund the Republic's mechanisms of Law Enforcement, under the banner of "Fiscal Conservatism"..... which then leaves the sheeple exploitable and exposed for the fleecing -- or the eating, as the wolve's whimsical appetite may ordain.
 
Caligula's Insane Rome, live....

488 posted on 11/15/2010 12:11:06 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

The problem as i see it, is that we cannot have this bunch of gays think that pushing for deep fiscal reform will somehow give them currency to advance their agenda. They must always understand that the destruction of their agenda is right at the heart of our agenda.

This is my prob with Mit in a nutshell. He’s fiscal only, and they know he will never use the budget as a hammer to advance the goal of restoring traditional America. The scorned America of Beaver Cleaver.


489 posted on 11/15/2010 12:16:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: kristinn
"and who has been known to post images of his bare torso to Twitter"

Really? Why does this worthy mention?

Also, David Thor Andreasen is a lifelong DEMOCRAT.

490 posted on 11/15/2010 12:20:39 PM PST by Andrea19
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To: LomanBill

“Caligula’s Insane Rome”

If you want a sickening awakening, look at every excess of Rome in it’s late depraved stages. Then look at us today,, we have an equal or equivalent in nearly every category. It truly is terrifying to see America go down the path Rome took. Which is why children are NEVER allowed to study history anymore.


491 posted on 11/15/2010 12:20:55 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: little jeremiah

I’m not ignoring those issues. I’m saying that the independents and rats that signed on with us to clean up the fiscal mess in this country aren’t interested in those subjects, at least not at this time. They are single-issue voters, and that issue is the economy/jobs. Now, they see where the zero agenda has led us. Fix their/our economic issues, and we may then be able to get them to join us to move forward with the rest of our agenda.

Don’t be stupid. We no sooner get our people elected into a power position based on correcting anti-zero fiscal irresponsibility, and you all want to go ramming the whole program down the throats of voters willing to give our party another chance for this specific purpose.

Just back off and let this one play out according to what the electorate voted for. Stifle the pub propensity to shoot yourself in the foot at every given opportunity.


492 posted on 11/15/2010 12:24:05 PM PST by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: LomanBill

The liars are already in positions of power and control. They act on a daily basis to dismantle the controls put in place to protect us from our government and advance their power. The debate should be how to purge these morally corrupt individuals from our government. I believe the Tea Party is on the right track and has been successful based on the message they convey. Ordinary Americans are fed up with being crapped on by their elected officials and demanding a change.

Thankfully and hopefully they will bring with them a better moral code and it will influence where we go next. As for de-funding of Law Enforcement I’m not sure specifically what you are talking to.


493 posted on 11/15/2010 12:24:40 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: Bokababe
[The only good news out of all of this is that the Liberal education system is finally collapsing in failure,]
I'm not so sure its collapsed.  And even if it has, the propaganda factory has now gone on-line.
 
Observe how the youth of today are more "Connected" than ever before - but who have little original to say.
 
They regurgitate what the collective approves of - but lack the tools to assimilate, analyze, and reasonably articulate a perception of self-evident Truth.
[You have to find a way to get through to them.]
I've been online since 1985.
 
Welcome to the coliseum of ideas, Gladiator.

494 posted on 11/15/2010 12:26:08 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Cicero

No, the point is that the people who just elected our party to put this country’s fiscal house in order voted for that, not the entire slate of the conservative agenda. Notice than none of the candidates who won made an issue of either abortion or homosexual incursion.

Prove we can govern, prove we can manage what they elected us to do. Build it, and they will come.

You have no idea what King George would have thought up or behaviors he would have approved or not approved of. He was quite the odd duck himself.


495 posted on 11/15/2010 12:30:56 PM PST by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: Captain Kirk; DJ MacWoW

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2626827/posts

George Soros in Bed with NAMBLA, Homosex Part One

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2626825/posts

NAMBLA-gate: Part Two NAMBLA-gate: The Strange Case of Kevin Jennings, Part Two [Article is actually posted as comment #6]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2626828/posts

NAMBLA-gate: Soros & Homosex, Part Three

The above articles need to be read carefully, the best is to click the link on each one to the Candian Free Press, the third article on FR is just an excerpt, and the others are slightly excerpted I think (I did not post the articles).

They give an incredible history of the “gay rights” moving - the original inventor of the modern “gay rights” movement was a member of the CPUSA - US Communist Part - named Harry Hay.


496 posted on 11/15/2010 12:39:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree, it is a sad time when we don’t learn from past mistakes. Rome’s fall was largely driven by the excesses and moral degeneration that developed it, before it had its resurgence post-Christianity. Which is why, I have the following points

“Social Conservatism” should be non-negotiable because it is obvious and are defined by God and not subject to the same flaws that we humans (and our laws) have. The Tea Party Must not compromise on this or get taken over by the posers.

Fiscal conservatism is something we all have a general idea of, you know, smaller govt. limited regulation, free market but the precise form of it is harder to decide because these are based on Human ideas and therefore subject to corrections and improvements. For example, regulation vs rule of law is trickier ground and not obvious. Similarly for things like the gold standard and currency speculation, derivatives etc. etc. We can actually have disagreements on these issues even if we are all fiscally conservative.

We can have No disagreements on moral issues though because its God’s word.


497 posted on 11/15/2010 12:39:23 PM PST by kroll
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To: little jeremiah

I didn’t say they were allies. It doesn’t matter if they have an agenda that is the antithesis of ours. What I’m saying is that they are right about not using the Tea Party to press a social issues agenda. They want fiscal responsibility. So do we. Don’t fight with them. If they try to assert their platform within the Tea Party beyond fiscal matters, the response is to simply not let them get any power, not retaliate by shooting ourselves in the foot by mouthing off about asserting our social agenda. The left and the media would pitch an all-out assault. We have enough battles ahead of us without starting unnecessary, easily avoidable trouble.

Wise up. For once, try to see the wind up for a punch before it’s thrown at you.


498 posted on 11/15/2010 12:41:38 PM PST by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: LomanBill

This is about political astuteness - strategy to fight the battle against these scum intelligently, not revealing your entire hand at the start of the game.

Why in hell is it so hard for people around here to get that? The rats have been winning with this strategy for years, so much so that they have successfully led us to the brink of fascism, yet you people never learn.


499 posted on 11/15/2010 12:48:26 PM PST by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: chilltherats; Jim Robinson

Since I agree 100% with Jim Robinson’s statement on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627159/posts

One more time: FR’s God-given Life & Liberty constitutional conservative activism agenda!!
In response to GOP Proud (Queer eye and RINO guy for the TPP) ^ | Nov 14, 2010 | Jim Robinson

You telling me that I am stupid and I should “just back off” you are telling him that too.

Your claim that independents and rats that “signed on with us” are social liberals is your claim only. If rats signed on, then let them stifle their liberalism, Repubs should not become Dem-lite, which actually they already have, and THAT IS THE FREAKING PROBLEM! You want the GOProud and other homo-nazi-agenda pushers driving this?

Apparently you do.


500 posted on 11/15/2010 12:49:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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