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Defeated Veteran Democrat: ‘Taxes Are Going to Have to Go Up’
The Note ^ | 11/12/2010 | Rick Klein

Posted on 11/13/2010 7:18:11 PM PST by Born Conservative

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1 posted on 11/13/2010 7:18:18 PM PST by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative
Hmmmm...I wonder why he was defeated???
2 posted on 11/13/2010 7:20:07 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

What principals?


3 posted on 11/13/2010 7:21:47 PM PST by sitkaspruce
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To: Born Conservative
“Everybody seemed to suffer that deficiency. And certainly, I did,” he said. “The Obama administration and the leadership in Congress, although they were very effective in legislating, they were terrible in educating. And in order to be successful, you have to be able to educate. If the electorate doesn’t know what you did, or what the legislation passed accomplished, then for all intents and purposes, you accomplished nothing.”

Yeah, more education. That's the key.

4 posted on 11/13/2010 7:23:00 PM PST by randita (“We didn’t just beat them. We cleaned out their entire bench"...Ryan Williams, NH Republican Party)
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To: Born Conservative

“He said the setbacks for he and his fellow Democrats should be a message that it’s time for the Democratic Party to “stand firm on real principles.””

No Paul. Your a$$ belongs to us now. The investigations are only beginning. You maybe be spending the rest of your days in an 8 x 11 and an orange jumper.


5 posted on 11/13/2010 7:23:27 PM PST by DarthVader (Nov 2 2010: That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Born Conservative
Spending cuts.
Spending cuts.
Spending cuts.
Spending cuts.
Spending cuts.
Spending cuts.
Spending cuts.
Spending cuts.

Then maybe we can talk about a tax increase.

Deficits are a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

6 posted on 11/13/2010 7:24:43 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: norwaypinesavage

He’s a real sleaze. That might have had something to do with it.


7 posted on 11/13/2010 7:24:43 PM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: Born Conservative
He said the setbacks for he and his fellow Democrats should be a message that it’s time for the Democratic Party to “stand firm on real principles.”

The principles of higher taxation and bigger government? Kanjorski evidently didn't read the message accurately.

8 posted on 11/13/2010 7:25:04 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Born Conservative

Well, Hauser’s Law graphed from the fifties, shows that taxes collected cannot exceed 19.5% of the GDP, ever, no matter how they are configured. All that can be done with taxes, is to vary the distrubution throughout taxed entities.

Whatever the real GDP is for 2010, taxes will not exceed 19.5% of the GDP.

With tax bases eroding for towns, cities, metropolises, counties, states and the Federal govt., with 2/3rds of US corporations paying no taxes at all, there is not much to be gained by pressing a turnip already pressed.

Outright confiscation in other countries and Kingdoms has been documented when taxes were not adequately forthcoming.


9 posted on 11/13/2010 7:28:05 PM PST by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: Born Conservative

They have to go up because of all the crap jerk Obama shoved through. Stop spending our money you fool and quit
raising our taxes for your commie dreams.


10 posted on 11/13/2010 7:30:36 PM PST by funfan
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To: Born Conservative

Gee, you think if I use the Democrat’s plan of spending too much I can ask my boss for a raise because my cost of living is too high? This has been the Democrats’ plan all along, spend all the money then claim poverty as the need to raise taxes!


11 posted on 11/13/2010 7:32:04 PM PST by Lockbox (`)
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To: givemELL

The “middle” class are the only ones who have ever really paid taxes.

With the systematic destruction of the “middle” class, everybody can wish in one hand and sh!+ in the other.


12 posted on 11/13/2010 7:34:21 PM PST by bigheadfred (wogga la hooga)
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To: Born Conservative

Nope. Spending has to come down.


13 posted on 11/13/2010 7:34:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: norwaypinesavage

ok, quick question,, would you rather receive 35% of a million, or 25% of a million and a half? This dillweed need to understand,, growing the economy would provide more money to the government than any tax increase *ever could*.

Amazing,,, whatever he could gain with even a HUGE tax increase would be utterly eclipsed by deregulating drilling, mining, logging, and slashing corporate tax rates to near zero.
Money and business would FLOOD into this country.


14 posted on 11/13/2010 7:40:58 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Born Conservative

No you little twerp, taxes do not have to go up.


15 posted on 11/13/2010 7:45:59 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Born Conservative

You can’t raise taxes on the rich.
Aside from the John Galt option, they can and will emigrate to Switzerland, Monaco, Singapore, or wherever else their wealth is more welcome. In the age of the internet that has become easier and easier to do.

And as for what’s left of the middle class, we are tapped out.

The government must cut spending drastically, and the sooner the better.


16 posted on 11/13/2010 7:45:59 PM PST by devere
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To: Born Conservative

There is such a thing as political Darwinism, sounds like he hit it out of the park.


17 posted on 11/13/2010 7:48:09 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: givemELL

***Well, Hauser’s Law graphed from the fifties, shows that taxes collected cannot exceed 19.5% of the GDP,***

Maybe that is why the kings of Spain only wanted their “Royal Fifth”.


18 posted on 11/13/2010 7:55:49 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Where do we start?

They want to cut the defense and people scream. They want to cut SS and Medicare and people scream. Cut of unemployment benefits. It goes on.

All they have managed to do is cut the heart out of America.

Stop bailing out things “too big to fail”?

I could go for that.

Cut a couple of million bureaucrat jobs? Yes. But then WTH are those people gonna do?

I was the cabinetmaker/foreman/designer/production manager in a medium sized (for this area) cabinet shop.

Where was our bailout when the housing bubble burst?

Now I ain’t got a pot to pee in.

Too white, too middle aged, under experienced, over qualified. Or over experienced, under qualified.

Been trying to get some help with, yes, grant money, for retraining.

They treat me like a piece of ...


19 posted on 11/13/2010 7:57:10 PM PST by bigheadfred (wogga la hooga)
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To: Born Conservative
I would suspect most Democrats agreed with the president when he campaigned against allowing tax reductions for millionaires and billionaires

The dems keep using this "millionaires and billionaires" garbage, and yet the vast majority of people who earn more than $250,000 a year are not millionaires, and almost none of them are billionaires.

Beyond the class envy stupidity, there is also the semantic issue, which is not trivial. A millionaire is someone who has a net worth in excess of a million dollars. It is a description of his assets, not his annual earnings. Someone who has earned two hundred thousand a year for several years, may eventually become a millionaire. Someone who inherits a million dollars but only makes $25,000 a year, is, in fact, a millionaire.

20 posted on 11/13/2010 8:03:41 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (If not for the double standard, liberals would have no standards at all.)
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