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To: Finny
And they're taken from Long Beach, about 25 miles south-east (and behind a large and prominent Palos Verdes range of bluffs and hills) of where the video cameranan reportedly was.

More problems with the fake gif animation. UPS902 was never due west of Long Beach. Never close to where the sun set when viewed from Long Beach. Hawaii is southwest of Long Beach. That flight was coming up from the southwest. It was 35 miles south of Long Beach at 29-30 k feet altitude. The plume he imaged began near to sunset point from his perspective.

And how in the world can a photographer imaging the sunset catch a plane 35 miles to his south at 30 k altitidue so clearly and so large ? Especially when they have focused on the distant sunset plume ? Those images are real bad fakes. And you can rework the process he used. He connected the plane-like object to the plume, then distorted both while connected to the left. The plane object was on a programmed flight path. The plume was moving in the wind. They should not have moved together. Obvious cheap photoshop trick.

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890 posted on 11/15/2010 5:58:36 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape; kanawa

Thanks, JHA. Kanawa, you might be interested in this.


891 posted on 11/15/2010 6:06:01 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: justa-hairyape

Why not just view the google earth track of UPS902 yourself its right on that page. Put the google earth “camera” in long beach approximately where the alleged observer was (there are buildings and hills to use as a point of reference), adjust the time of day to match, and see for yourself, just where UPS902 was. It’ll take you 3 minutes, max, do accomplish this.

Unless you suspect FlightAware.com’s historical UPS902 tracking data is altered in cahoots with the airplane theorists...

Just take a moment and try it.


915 posted on 11/15/2010 7:36:38 PM PST by lbahneman
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