[lbahneman]

For one, civilian aircraft are not painted with matte colors.

Dark blue, black, or gray aircraft still reflect sunlight, even more so at a shallow angle. That is elementary. It has nothing to do with the color of paint.

Please be the first to provide a plotted trajectory... bearings, speeds and altitudes of this ballistic missile derived from the statements by the camera man and the video he has provided. That seems to be all the evidence you seem to require to do so. Once you have that, please correlate that with the photographic imagery, both webcam, security camera, hand-held camera and satellite that are all available from that day.

[Finny]

Get off your high horse, dude, making all your demands of plots and correlations, etc., as if they would prove a thing -- see the contrailscience page of how such things are so great at creating illusions over truth. Also see my post #803 and meet my five-word answer challenge. It will take a lot less time and provide a lot more insight than what you've presented so far.

Also, it would be nice if you kept up with current events. I was amused that people thought the blue belly of the airliner would reflect less light than a white belly because I have seen a whole helluva lot of the phenomenon of sun reflecting off a plane. I am very familiar with the illusion, and I would venture to say AS, if not very probably MORE, familiar with it than you. Where have you lived and observed aircraft and missiles, if you please??????? I have lived within two miles of the ocean most of my life in various places, and many years beneath the glide paths of international air traffic landing at nearby airports as well as inbound to more distant airports. How many years have you lived in such a location? One? Two? Ten?

BECAUSE of that experience, I had to shake my head when I saw folks who thought the color of the plane would make any difference, and indeed SAID SO in one of my posts on one of the threads -- you'll have already seen if if you've been keeping up. It's the polish of the surface that reflects the sunshine, it seems to me, not the color of the plane, although an aluminum-body plane most assuredly reflects quite a lot more than a painted one.

Plotted trajectory? What in the hell are you talking about? Here's the deal, coming from someone who has personally witnessed DOZENS of missile launches in this very region: it is wholly believable judging from the video and EXPERT speculation from folks who make a living in aviation-related fields, that the thing fired off heading north northwest from an area about 80 miles west south-west of the general Los Angeles coastal area. YOU figure out its trajectory. You are sadly mistaken if you think the video is showing something headed toward the mainland.

My guess is that you are doing ivory-tower figuring, while some of us have been on the front line and have real experience to draw from.

[kanawa]

Thanks for taking time to respond in the face of vitriolic attacks on your integrity.

[justa-hairyape]

Dark blue, black, or gray aircraft still reflect sunlight, even more so at a shallow angle.

Do you know how difficult it is for an airplane to reflect sunlight from a setting sun to a viewer located to the east of the plane ? Would call that refraction actually, not reflection.

[D-fendr]

Thanks for your posts and work on this and for getting the research and results out.

That’s about all that can be done now and there’ll always be a few that won’t accept evidence contrary to the conclusion they’re prejudiced toward.