[muawiyah]

I have no opinion on the matter, nor is the altitude at which it happened relevant in this case.

It was a plane. It landed on time. No eyewitnesses to a missile blast off have been found. No one has been reported missing.

[justa-hairyape]

It is impossible for it to be Flight UPS 902. Absolutely impossible. Check it for yourself. The website below allows you to track all current flights and previous flight histories in the area. First let me say there were only two possibilities. AWE808 and UPS902. UPS902 came through almost a half hour later then AWE808. Flight AWE808 was over Catalina Island at 17:01:39 on November 8th. Then crossed over the California main coastline at 17:06:00. If you look at the flight path for UPS902 on that day in history, only someone smoking crack would claim it was the flight.

UPS902 was over Catalina Island at 17:31:33. Its altitude was ~ 30,000 feet. It was 35 miles south of Long Beach at 17:33:01. Altitude ~ 29,000 feet. It was then 20 miles south of Costa Mesa at 17:34:29 at ~ 29,000 feet. At that altitude should have been contrailing the whole way. Never got close to Long Beach. Traveled south of FallBrook and started major descent then. Turned north and was at 11,100 feet over Hemet heading north. No way it could have been that plane. Check it for yourself. Go to the website below. Set the date for November 8th 2010 time 17:30 . Set the replay speed for normal. Hit Start Replay. Make sure you are not paused. Planes will show up in a few seconds. UPS902 will appear on and off south of Malibu at 17:30:11. It flew way south of Long Beach at about 30,000 feet. No where near the setting sun with respect to looking south from Long Beach.

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