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To: Cicero
Chinese sub is my guess. I simply can’t imagine our own government taking the risk of firing a submarine launched missile over the U.S. and possibly Canada.

Sunset launches result in this phenomenon:

This was a recent Vandenberg launch near sunset, the picture taken from San Diego, though similar sights were seen as far away as Phoenix and Tuscon AZ. There was no after sunset displays in the sky on that evening, I certainly would have noticed as I was driving that direction. So to add to the 'mystery' of this being a missile, it produced no upper atmosphere contrails, meaning it would have had to go into a ballistic mode at normal commercial aviation flight levels.

I know the admiral in charge of the western pacific. If he even suspected that there was a submarine launching missiles in his neck of the woods, he'd throw everything he had into searching for it, and if ordered to do anything else, would be in front of a television camera within minutes to expose it.

Thousands of private pilots, thousands of boat crews on commercial and private ships, hundreds of commercial aircraft pilots, air traffic controllers, the AF Space Command in Los Angeles, Port Huneme Naval Base, Edwards AFB, Vandenberg AFB - no conspiracy survives that many people (not to mention the millions in Los Angeles who somehow missed this as well...)

402 posted on 11/13/2010 8:55:22 PM PST by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: kingu

That can’t be a missile launch. It doesn’t look like a contrail.


416 posted on 11/13/2010 9:16:15 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: kingu
Many people saw the missile. They have posted their observations to many blogs. Links have been provided in threads. Even the original CBS story blog has comments from people describing what they saw. Please, you look silly when you state no one saw it. We have no idea what altitude the missile attained. So we do not know if it could have left an ionization trail in the upper atmosphere.
444 posted on 11/13/2010 10:01:36 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: kingu

I live in Phoenix, and I have seen several ionized gas clouds from launches at VAFB. And, I have seen launches from S. California, 100 miles S of VAFB. Not a single witness has reported an ionized gas cloud like this, because there was NO MISSILE.

Just a bad report of an optical illusion that got the kooks in a lather. And, they have zero proof. Versus the USairways 757, or the UPS MD11-F that was in the sky at altitude, making contrails.


463 posted on 11/13/2010 10:46:13 PM PST by Sto Zvirat
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