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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Comment from CBS site: This vapor trail was visible at sunset last night from Santa Monica. It was about 20 miles north of Catalina Island. It was quite a smear on the horizon. I often watch the sunset there and planes don’t leave this heavy of an imprint. And their trails are in the sky and not leading down to the ocean.

That matches with the local CBS report that the photographer estimated it to be north of Catalina Island. That doesn't match at all with awe808 or the UPS flight which pass over or just south of Catalina Island.

1,088 posted on 11/16/2010 3:56:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Comment from CBS site:

This vapor trail was visible at sunset last night from Santa Monica. It was about 20 miles north of Catalina Island.

It was quite a smear on the horizon.

I often watch the sunset there and planes don’t leave this heavy of an imprint.

And their trails are in the sky and not leading down to the ocean.


That matches with the local CBS report that the photographer estimated it to be north of Catalina Island.

That doesn’t match at all with awe808 or the UPS flight which pass over or just south of Catalina Island.


And this is from an independent witness from one day after the missile launch, not involved or aware of our discussion here.

Independent report.

Of what he saw.

Not false overlays of gifs that have no known directional vector involved, created by armchair strategists with no experience or expertise at all in missile launches.

He saw it.

Huge smoke plume. THat is because of the huge amount of propellant being burned.

The real experts have told everyone this. Including a quite famous US 3 star LIeut General.

Wake up, people - an unknown somebody has launched an SLBM off our coast for an unknown reason and our government is lying to us about it.

It’s funny -— several FReepers know more than the Jane’s Missile and Rocket magazine Editor.


1,146 posted on 11/17/2010 2:26:14 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: TigersEye
That matches with the local CBS report that the photographer estimated it to be north of Catalina Island.

The California coast is really weird here. Goes north-south in some areas, east-west in others but the main coastline generally runs from southeast-northwest. You can see it in the sat post previously showing the AWE808 contrail. Personally I can see where a viewer in Santa Monica looking in the direction of San Nicholas Island might think they were looking north. Here is a funny story.

Was in California for a few months. A good friend of mine from childhood was in an argument with me. He had lived in California for at least 15 years. I happened to mention that Catalina Island was south of the California coastline. He got really agitated and said he had sailed there and he knew it was west because he headed west to get there. Very, very confusing coastline because we were both right.

1,163 posted on 11/17/2010 4:36:19 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: TigersEye

Comment from CBS site:

This vapor trail was visible at sunset last night from Santa Monica. It was about 20 miles north of Catalina Island.

It was quite a smear on the horizon.

I often watch the sunset there and planes don’t leave this heavy of an imprint.

And their trails are in the sky and not leading down to the ocean.


That matches with the local CBS report that the photographer estimated it to be north of Catalina Island.

That doesn’t match at all with awe808 or the UPS flight which pass over or just south of Catalina Island.


And this is from an independent witness from one day after the missile launch, not involved or aware of our discussion here.

Independent report.

Of what he saw.

Not false overlays of gifs that have no known directional vector involved, created by armchair strategists with no experience or expertise at all in missile launches.

He saw it.

Huge smoke plume. THat is because of the huge amount of propellant being burned.

The real experts have told everyone this. Including a quite famous US 3 star LIeut General.

Wake up, people - an unknown somebody has launched an SLBM off our coast for an unknown reason and our government is lying to us about it.

It’s funny -— several FReepers know more than the Jane’s Missile and Rocket magazine Editor.


1,177 posted on 11/17/2010 6:27:17 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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