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Amazing Interview: Air Force General says "Sub Launched Missile, 100% Certain"
Fox News Interview with Air Force General Tom McInerney | November 14th 2010 | Fox News Hannity Interview

Posted on 11/13/2010 2:55:59 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

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To: TXnMA

You went through all that to point out a simple typo, as a means or defense to support your own opinion?

wow...

lol


641 posted on 11/14/2010 11:22:50 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; ex 98C MI Dude
All of those issues have been answered on this and other FR threads. Just because you haven't seen the answers yet doesn't mean they are not available...

The flight has now been narrowed down to one of two likely candidates... To take a look at the filght path data -- in 3-D -- go to this long page of photos and graphics. (Be sure to look all the way down the page to get the flight path graphics.

642 posted on 11/14/2010 11:24:57 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Tolsti2

Nicely done! ‘-)


643 posted on 11/14/2010 11:26:58 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: RaceBannon; TXnMA
the size of the contrail would be thin when close to the aircraft, dispersed more the further you go away from the aircraft and where it’s just been the longer time to disperse, the wider the plume that plume is created too fast, is too wide for a simple aircraft,

Uh huh. A priori reasoning doesn't have anything to do with physical reality:






644 posted on 11/14/2010 11:27:57 AM PST by aruanan
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To: TXnMA

That puts it to bed, doesn’t it? It was an inbound airplane from the Pacific, not an outbound missile.


645 posted on 11/14/2010 11:31:41 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL; Names Ash Housewares; Yaelle
Not only that, but NAH's claims of "I LIVE HERE!" are coming from someone who, according to a review of posting history, actually lives in San Diego.

Now, Yaelle actually lives here, in the LA-Orange County area. I actually live here, as well. Unless NAH commutes every day to LA/centralOC area (south OC is pretty far-flung from LAX), NAH doesn't regularly see LA area's airspace any more than Yaelle and I see San Diego's airspace.

646 posted on 11/14/2010 11:32:36 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: aruanan

Remember, this one was an MD-11 too. 3 Engines that are much closer together overall then spread out across winds. Trijets and MD-80’s tend to look like having 1 big output from that.


647 posted on 11/14/2010 11:33:17 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; ex 98C MI Dude
You make the rash assumption that the flight cannot be identified. Heck, it has been: the guy at the link I gave you even looked up the flight and its path on the INTERNET!! With common, everyday data like that there for the looking, why should the government cater to your laziness in looking for it by publicizing something that happens thousands of times every week??

Sheesh! "Just because I'm ignorant, the facts must not exist." Great logic.

648 posted on 11/14/2010 11:36:12 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: aruanan

proving my point

look how thin it is next to the jet exhaust

then, look at it MILES back, it is much wider but CLEARLY distinctive of each engine!!

I been around planes many years, grew up near an airport, worked in aviation in the Marines and for 11 years afterwards and am back in aviation now, so, try someone else to convince


649 posted on 11/14/2010 11:36:30 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

bookmark


650 posted on 11/14/2010 11:38:11 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: All

Some people can’t get their heads around the seeming appearance of a single contrail. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but this particular aircraft has three engines which are grouped relatively close to the body, so their separate contrails might appear as one, especially from 35,000 feet. That’s another thing. Some people here are perplexed at the absence of more contrails in the sky over LAX. We have to remember, this flight was overflying LAX on it’s way to PHX, at approx. 35,000 feet....cold as hell....conducive for big time steam making if you will. Practically all other commercial aircraft were coming in or out of various LA airports....low level...warm temps.....little contrail making opportunities.


651 posted on 11/14/2010 11:39:11 AM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: dragnet2
I admire your work. I just thought the typo was one of the most apprpriate Freudian slips I've seen in a while... :-)

But it still was an aircraft in level flight (following the curvature of the earth) flying TOWARD the camera.

652 posted on 11/14/2010 11:40:35 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Airspace security has been a joke since the end of the cold war,...

That is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.

National security are you kidding?

What national security?

Bush's Homeland Security Chief Chertoff, was found to have people wandering around the inside of his private residence that were in the country illegally.

During war time

Ya can't make this stuff up.

In fact, during the Bush war years, we had tens of millions from God knows where enter this country, while Bush celebrated Cinco De Mayo up in the White House...All this during war time!

653 posted on 11/14/2010 11:42:36 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: TXnMA
I admire your work. I just thought the typo was one of the most apprpriate Freudian slips I've seen in a while..

Oh man...This is too good... Hey Tex, how do ya spell appropriate?

lol....

654 posted on 11/14/2010 11:45:47 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: mojitojoe

I hear you. :)


655 posted on 11/14/2010 11:46:47 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: aruanan

656 posted on 11/14/2010 11:50:24 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Ronald_Magnus
No lay person with brains would presume to pronounce from that photo whether it was a contrail or missile launch. It is a still photo taken from too far a distance to tell. Furthermore, anyone who has SEEN missile launches and airliners leaving contrails knows that. People who have never SEEN first-hand a missile launch don't.

Lay people with brains and decades of first-hand sightings of missile launchs as well as airplane contrails, non-lay aviation and missile professionals with brains, and people who are close to them, generally (with some exceptions) look at the video -- not still photos, which tell you very little, but actual moving video -- and conclude that it was, indeed, a missile launch.

The cameraman who shot the video is either deliberately perpetrating a hoax AND lying outright in his description of the event, OR he is a blithering moron if he, after 11 years of filming LA skies via helicopter and using very high-quality lenses to see what he's looking at, cannot tell a commercial airliner contrail from a missile launch.

Frankly, that a guy like the camerman couldn't tell the difference is a hell of a lot more far-fetched than the missile shot scenario. Less far-fetched is the possibility that he's lying and deliberately manipulated the video to look like a missile shot.

Either way, we have seen arrogance on high display here among people who assume an immense amount of stupidity and ineptness on the part of pretty qualified folks who openly state their opinion that the video showed a missile launch.

657 posted on 11/14/2010 11:51:58 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: aruanan

Thank God LAX only gets one Pacific flight per hour.


658 posted on 11/14/2010 11:52:42 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Finny

The vapor trail is HUGE. Thanks for your input.


659 posted on 11/14/2010 11:56:30 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Finny

Which brings to mind motives.


660 posted on 11/14/2010 11:56:55 AM PST by little jeremiah
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