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Missouri prosecutors: Warrant not needed for blood test in drunken driving cases.
The Kansas City Star ^
| 11-12-2010
| CHRIS BLANK
Posted on 11/12/2010 6:46:29 PM PST by MissouriConservative
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To: MissouriConservative
They already do it here in Idaho - it’s supposedly authorized by the individual when they sign for the license.
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posted on
11/12/2010 6:51:01 PM PST
by
andyk
(Hi, my name's Andy, and I was a BF 1942 / Desert Combat junkie.)
To: MissouriConservative
This will be challenged forthwith by the ACLU and many other civil rights groups.
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posted on
11/12/2010 6:52:27 PM PST
by
doc1019
(Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
To: andyk
To what extremes will they go if I don’t cooperate?
To: andyk
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posted on
11/12/2010 6:53:13 PM PST
by
Krankor
(I can't see me loving nobody but you- for all my life.)
To: Dusty Road
To what extremes will they go if I dont cooperate?
They will hold you down and draw the sample.
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posted on
11/12/2010 6:55:12 PM PST
by
andyk
(Hi, my name's Andy, and I was a BF 1942 / Desert Combat junkie.)
To: MissouriConservative
It’s coming to the point where we’ll need to spill leftist blood before they start obeying the constitution.
ps - We know where you live.
To: andyk
Toss you in jail.
I’m having to deal with a roommate who did this with my car. Got the car out of the impound, but I’m furious at him. He’s claiming he wasn’t drunk, but frankly I don’t care. He was in my car, he should have taken the test.
His desire to protect himself meant he sold my ass out, and I don’t appreciate that very much.
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:03:10 PM PST
by
BenKenobi
To: andyk
That would be dangerous for all involved and not as easy as it sounds.
To: andyk
Then by implication, would they claim that does not constitute assault? Because it seems like it would be.
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:07:48 PM PST
by
GnuHere
To: andyk
How long before “implied consent” means they can search your house without a warrant?
Or pull some blood and hair samples to do a tox screen at random?
Getting a driver’s license doesn’t mean signing away your constitutional rights.
To: Lance Romance
That was done for you before you were born.
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:15:56 PM PST
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
To: MissouriConservative
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:17:09 PM PST
by
AlmaKing
To: MissouriConservative
Breathalyzer tests can be off by +/- 20% or more. Even assuming the best equipment, and proper administration; a breathalyzer is not a perfectly reliable measure of BAC. That's because breathalyzers don't measure blood alcohol content -- they measure the concentration of alcohol vapour in the lungs, and apply a mathematical formula to that measurement, to come up with an estimated BAC.
If you've already submitted to a breathalyzer (and, assuming you haven't abused other drugs); and failed that test by a small margin -- it might actually be in your interests to demand a blood test. The blood test might exonerate you. (Don't do this if you know you've been drinking a lot -- the blood test may also give you a higher reading.)
To: MissouriConservative
The DA here in Houston has said she will do the same thing. The program to train police officers to draw the blood samples (using federal funds) was canceled by the mayor, but they say they are still prepared to use trained medical personnel to take samples during "No Refusal Weekends."
Maybe in a situation where there is an accident where death or serious injury is involved, I could see taking a blood sample without your permission, but otherwise I'm not so sure.
Supremes Pass On Fourth Amendment DUI Case
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:20:25 PM PST
by
smokingfrog
(Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
To: Krankor
implied consentA thoroughly evil concept.
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:25:14 PM PST
by
zeugma
(Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
To: Lance Romance
Getting a drivers license doesnt mean signing away your constitutional rights.Apparently it does, because they have guns and no hesitation whatsoever about using them.
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:26:46 PM PST
by
zeugma
(Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
To: BenKenobi
I don’t let friends use my car. Call me an ahole but I will drive them on my schedule if they need help.
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:32:43 PM PST
by
Bruinator
(God is Great.... Beer is good.... Muzzies are.........?)
To: Lance Romance
Getting a drivers license doesnt mean signing away your constitutional rights.
It does in Idaho, according to the Idaho Supreme Court, re: State vs. Diaz (2007).
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posted on
11/12/2010 7:35:29 PM PST
by
andyk
(Hi, my name's Andy, and I was a BF 1942 / Desert Combat junkie.)
To: Bruinator
The only people I’ve recently let borrow my vehicle is my pastor and my parents. If my vehicle gets impounded, I think I have bigger problems than getting it back...
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