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Soros's Role in Kenya Chaos
GlennBeck.com ^ | November 11, 2010 | Richard Poe

Posted on 11/11/2010 3:54:20 PM PST by Alexander Nevsky

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To: bgill
Those clauses of the new Kenyan Constitution are what I was referring to...

Obama can return to Kenya at any time to reclaim his citizenship.

By scheduling the final approval of the new constitution on Obama’s birthday the Kenyans appear to me to be extending an open invitation to Obama to show up there after he is “done” in DC.

101 posted on 11/13/2010 9:24:17 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Born in Kenya Aug. 4, 1961 -> Indonesian citizenship -> Mar. 25, 2010 Kenya Parliament states Hussein born in Kenya -> a week later on April Fool’s Day parliament passes new constitution -> the new citizenship referendums adopted on Hussein’s 49th birthday -> reclaim Kenyan citizenship moments before it hits the fan.

Kenya currently has an extradition treaty with the US though that could change at any time. Just something to keep an eye out for though it could change after the fact.


102 posted on 11/13/2010 10:25:12 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT

“I can guarantee you that Obama was never with the CIA.”


A pretty off the cuff guarantee from somebody who never was in the CIA and for some reason was rejected, is not giving me an assurance to its validity and I’m NOT sure of how the process really works. To put in a “work” application with CIA is one thing, but NOT a proof that other things are in play as well that’s NOT known to the public!

I can guarantee you that, because of my vocation and the language skill I had then, I was offered a job in the intelligence agency, NOT because I submitted an application, but because somebody else knew my skills, however, I choose not to be tied down from what I then wanted to do. Similar, later I was also offered a field position within the U.N. organization, based on a third party knowing my vocation skills, NOT me submitting a job application. From younger colleagues as well as from retired, I learned that even the U.N. positions had some spying aspects attached to the jobs!!

It’s well known from the usurper’s own speeches that he do speak understandable language within the muzzie communities. As a side note, the Gestapo would pick-up American spy-agents meeting underground people in Gasthauses, because of a simple detail, such as eating the European style with fork and knife, they had not been taught. A European can most always spot an American the way he/she uses forks/knives!!!

When you applied for the CIA job did you have any foreign language skills???

Compared to your New York Slimes sources, I certainly would trust another New York source over NYT:

http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?tag=cia


103 posted on 11/13/2010 2:37:11 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: danamco; LucyT; Red Steel; El Gato; Danae
I tested out of my Ivy League college language requirement with my AP score in a language.

The minimum 9 month process to enter the CIA at the time began with sending a resume in response to a newspaper ad, perhaps in the WSJ or NY Times.

If your resume survived the screening where thousands were eliminated, next came a face to face interview in a business hotel chain room in a city near you, where the interviewer gave you his name, but told you up front it was an alias.

Then they send you a huge pile of paper work and also a 15 book reading list of the most detailed books about the CIA both pro and con including the books by defecting agents, America haters and CIA haters.

I was impressed by that. I think they wanted the recruit to hear as many horrible accusations against the USA and the CIA as possible up front before you were accepted for training to make it less likely you would be swayed by the “opposition” at a later date.

I read all of the books and I base my contention that Obama was never in the CIA on that knowledge as well as the screening for any Marxist associates backed by lie detector testing as well as drug screening. History of use of any drugs was cause for elimination in the early 1980's when Obama would have been recruited. By the mid 1980's when I went through the process they changed the drug use exclusion to any one who had used within three years and they couldn't fill quotas!

A large portion of the paperwork was the standard set needed for a security clearance to be conducted. I went through two and although rejected by the CIA at the last minute when the earliest training slot was after I turned age 35, I was granted a “Secret” (lowest level) clearance related to international trade.

The security clearance paperwork requires you to list every single place you have ever resided and every place you have worked, and all of your relatives and friends with foreign connections or communist or other seditious sympathies so they can send agents to interview them. I still have it in my file. This interviewing and double-checking your statements takes six months or so.

They also ask you to write a lengthy paper on an international affairs topic of your own choosing. I wrote about the Iran-Iraq War and opined that the religiously inspired Iranians were ultimately more dangerous than the secular Iraqis.

They also schedule you for an all-day test on your knowledge of foreign affairs and political science at a local university where several hundred people show up instructed not to say much to each other. You take the test, then leave.

I had completed all of these challenges, apparently successfully as they are given in sequence and you don't get from one to the next unless you pass, except for the security clearance.

I have a relative who might have had an FBI file that might have been of concern to them.

104 posted on 11/13/2010 4:47:17 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; Red Steel; El Gato; Danae
The security clearance paperwork requires you to list every single place you have ever resided and every place you have worked, and all of your relatives and friends with foreign connections or communist or other seditious sympathies so they can send agents to interview them. I still have it in my file. This interviewing and double-checking your statements takes six months or so.

Thank carp, I'm not trying to make an argument with you, however, what you experienced above is not more than I faced when I applied for the privilege of immigrating to the United States of America as a "normal" foreign citizen during the period of three and half years before entry visa was granted. And just remember I was not coming from high volume country either!

My paperwork, which I always take copies of contains 4 x 2" thick Office Depot hanging files in my filing cabinet under the title "Immigration papers". I didn't use an immigration attorney, but did all the paperwork manual by myself with the help of an old Underwood typewriter.!!

I gave you a link to a radio broadcast of the mentioned trial, it's about three hours and I just finished listening to it, which I can see you have not done. You may be surprise to learn how our Government is "really" operating which is swept under the rug by the State-run-Media. Have a nice Sunday, all!!!

105 posted on 11/13/2010 5:35:36 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: danamco
I will listen to the tape, although my neuro condition (CFS) limits sustained concentration...

In my view, Obama would never survive being screened out as a CIA candidate due to drug use and his huge number of associates with KGB ties and FBI files including his grandfather!

Unlike your immigration application, _all_ CIA applicants are subjected to lie detection testing to test all statements made about Marxist associates and drug use. Obama would fail and be rejected on both kinds of questions.

Also remember that after the Church Committee witch hunts in the mid-1970’s, the demoralized CIA clandestine services were practically gutted and under Carter the CIA head, Admiral Turner chose to rely on SigInt (signals intelligence from satellites and other sensors) rather than HumInt (human intelligence gathered by CIA officers posted to foreign countries to act as innocent Americans while recruiting “agents”...i.e. foreign nationals willing to betray their governments secrets).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stansfield_Turner

“Under Turner's direction, the CIA emphasized Technical intelligence (TECHINT) and Signal intelligence (SIGINT) more than Human intelligence (HUMINT). In 1979, Turner eliminated over 800 operational positions in what was called the Halloween Massacre. In a biography published in 2005, Turner expressed regret for the dismissals stating, ‘In retrospect, I probably should not have effected the reductions of 820 positions at all, and certainly not the last 17.’”

When Obama graduated from Columbia in the early 1980’s and would have supposedly been recruited, Reagan's CIA head William Casey nearly had to start up HumInt from scratch to turn back the aggressive Soviet moves all over the planet under Carter. Screening out communist infiltrators and fellow travelers crucial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey

“Casey oversaw the re-expansion of the Intelligence Community to funding and human resource levels greater than those existing before the preceding Carter Administration; in particular, he increased levels within the CIA. During his tenure, restrictions were lifted on the use of the CIA to directly and covertly influence the internal and foreign affairs of countries relevant to American policy.

“This period of the Cold War saw an increase in the Agency's global, anti-Soviet activities.”

BTW, you comments about Americans being spotted by Europeans and Nazis, while true, do not apply to clandestine CIA officers, only to special ops officers and I think we can agree that Obama was not one of those hardened warriors.

CIA officers in the clandestine services do not try to pass themselves off as foreign nationals, but rather as Americans who are not in the CIA but have some other reason for being abroad. That is the deception. So no reason to worry about forks!

106 posted on 11/13/2010 6:11:30 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: danamco
On second thought, on seeing that the source is from Pastor Manning's “trial” I must decline and conserve my energy.

I consider Pastor Manning to be justifiably and enthusiastically outraged by Obama, but unfamiliar with the requirements for documenting and presenting evidence in a trial.

I'm not a lawyer, but I did prevail in a five-year custody battle for which I had to nearly memorize the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure (the green one that year for you TX attorneys who will know what I mean).

107 posted on 11/13/2010 6:24:26 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Alexander Nevsky; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!


108 posted on 11/13/2010 7:03:06 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: Seizethecarp
I consider Pastor Manning to be justifiably and enthusiastically outraged by Obama, but unfamiliar with the requirements for documenting and presenting evidence in a trial.

Sorry to see your one eye viewpoint after reading all you posted links. Seems a little like arguments from Ms/WKA and others. But still we live in free country so far!!!

109 posted on 11/13/2010 8:21:51 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: All

Check out this thread at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2626481/posts

There is a guy there who thinks that those of us who see Soros as a real threat are suffering from “Soros Derangement Syndrome” and likens the same people to those who fell under the spell of Adolph Hitler as he scapegoated the jews.


110 posted on 11/13/2010 8:53:31 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: Bokababe; kronos77; Ravnagora; FormerLib; LjubivojeRadosavljevic; joan

Soros screwing the world ping (Yugoslavia mentioned)


111 posted on 11/13/2010 9:14:40 PM PST by montyspython
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To: danamco
I am also a retired CPA and Certified Fraud Examiner (CPE) and to put it another way, Manning doesn't demonstrate even remotely adequate forensic backup for his “evidence.”

Ms. WKA also makes claims he can't support. I try not to.

If you were William Casey and tasked by Reagan in 1981 to hire only the best, most dedicated, most incorruptible anticommunist patriots you could find to restart the CIA covert operations that were destroyed under Carter, would you hire Barack Hussein Obama II?

I do not believe that the CIA patriots who interviewed me would ever bring Obama into the CIA.

112 posted on 11/13/2010 9:32:34 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
I do not believe that the CIA patriots who interviewed me would ever bring Obama into the CIA.

Believing and reality is two different options!

Your clandestine "GUARANTEE" is what makes me skeptical of the inside knowledge of the CIA!!

You make it sound like CIA is a Sunday School squeegee clean operation which I don't think at all. I believe it's full of dirty laundry and the people they hire. Of course that's something they never would admit to publicly!!!

They must have given a reason for not hiring you???

113 posted on 11/13/2010 10:23:33 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: danamco
I assume that the CIA people who step forward to serve our country are patriots until proved otherwise.

They are people and some fall short and make bad choices as in every organization.

It is not their policy to give any reason why a person is not selected as that may give away information best kept secret, especially if they failed a security check.

Having completed the application process, I was given two start dates for training at The Farm and asked to express a preference, if I had one. The first date fell before I could complete my Master in Accounting that I had been working on for two years, and the second date fell just after my 35th birthday and I requested that date knowing that it might put me over the age limit.

When I said "guarantee" I am speaking from my experience, not any authority of course. If you find that to be too strong I will retract "guarantee" and just say that based on my experience of completing the full CIA process right up to selecting a training start date there is no way that a drug using Marxist like Obama would get through the screening I went through.

114 posted on 11/13/2010 10:56:23 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
When I said "guarantee" I am speaking from my experience, not any authority of course. If you find that to be too strong I will retract "guarantee" and just say that based on my experience of completing the full CIA process right up to selecting a training start date there is no way that a drug using Marxist like Obama would get through the screening I went through.

Thank you. Is it your opinion that that is the ONLY way and process that CIA recruits people???

115 posted on 11/13/2010 11:03:28 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: Alexander Nevsky

Tantalizing series “the Puppet Master”.

Um but Americans are not Kenyans.

So the unholy slaughter will not transpire.


116 posted on 11/13/2010 11:03:37 PM PST by Global2010
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To: Seizethecarp

The hotel room with legal reps is an odd feeling for sure.


117 posted on 11/13/2010 11:06:58 PM PST by Global2010
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To: danamco
“Is it your opinion that that is the ONLY way and process that CIA recruits people???”

No. It will target folks with specific language or technical skills and arrange for them to be approached for recruitment. Does Obama have any known language or technical skills?

As I said, when I went to take the all day foreign affairs test (it included a lot of SAT-type and IQ-type testing as well) over 200 people showed up on a campus near where I lived and it is my assumption that there were identical campus testing sites around the country administering the screening test on that date.

Getting an agent into the CIA as a double-agent is the highest priority for our enemies who were Soviet backed at the time.

People with a history of close personal and family ties to KGB-associated organizations, like Obama set off alarm bells.

UK espionage and a lot of US agents had been totally compromised in the recent past by double agent Kim Philby and The Cambridge Five. If you read his bio you will see a lot of parallel risk factors with Obama which CIA screening is designed to detect to enable weeding out such people:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Philby

“Harold Adrian Russell ‘Kim’ Philby (1 January 1912 – 11 May 1988[1]) was a high-ranking member of British intelligence who worked as a spy for and later defected to the Soviet Union. A communist, he served as an NKVD and KGB operative.[2]

“In 1963, Philby was revealed as a member of the spy ring now known as the Cambridge Five, along with Donald Maclean, Guy Burgess, Anthony Blunt and John Cairncross. Of the five, Philby is believed to have been most successful in providing secret information to the Soviet Union. His activities were moderated only by Stalin's concern that he might be a double agent.[3] Philby was an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) from 1946 to 1965.”

118 posted on 11/14/2010 6:51:35 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

“No. It will target folks with specific language or technical skills and arrange for them to be approached for recruitment. Does Obama have any known language or technical skills?”


I don’t use that name, because it’s more likely Barry Soetoro alias “Soebarkah” or according to an Arabic source: “Baracka Hussein Abu Amama”!

After starting his school years in Indonesia as an Indonesian citizen, and being a muzzie, I presume he was learning their language, (NOT English) that would be a rare language skill that CIA may benefit from!!

40+ yrs ago I worked in Sweden learning their language, and when I meet Swedes in IKEA stores or in the Scandinavia clubs, I’m still able to communicate with them in their own language without difficulties. Something you never forget when being young enough to learn thoroughly.!!!


“Getting an agent into the CIA as a double-agent is the highest priority for our enemies who were Soviet backed at the time.”


Seems to be a two-way street, confirming my suspiciousness, and Yuri Besmenov comes to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHRgTskEhE&feature=related


119 posted on 11/14/2010 12:21:33 PM PST by danamco (")
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120 posted on 11/14/2010 1:43:12 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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