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Flight attendants union upset over new pat-down procedures
abc15.com ^ | 11-10-10 | Christopher Sign

Posted on 11/10/2010 7:26:37 AM PST by rawhide

A flight attendants union with 2,000 members is upset over what it calls "invasive pat-downs" recently implemented by the TSA.

"We're getting calls daily about peoples' experiences, our members are concerned," said Deborah Volpe, Vice President of the Association of Flight Attendants Local 66.

Volpe confirmed that the union is offering advice to its flight attendants, who mostly work for Tempe-based USAirways, involving the security moves.

According to a union email obtained by ABC15, it tells flight attendants if they opt out of using the body scanner through security and are required to undergo a pat-down to ask the pat-down be conducted in a private area with a witness.

"We don't want them in uniform going through this enhanced screening where their private areas are being touched in public," said Volpe. "They actually make contact with the genital area."

Some passengers have told ABC15 they've already encountered flight delays due to crew members having problems with TSA employees.

"It (delay) was over three hours when they finally found a crew member to take her place," said Les Johnson who says his Charlotte bound flight was delayed. "She (flight attendant) felt that she was groped and supposedly filed a claim."

"They've already contacted the ACLU," said Volpe when referring to some members of the union. "We don't know if somebody may have had an experience with a sexual assault and its (pat-down) going to drudge up some bad memories."

Volpe made it clear the union is not against security.

"Security is the most important aspect, our offices were used as murder weapons," said Volpe. "Keep in mind we undergo extensive background checks and we fly quite often."

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To: Irenic
I have wondered if men should opt out of the scan and wear cucumbers. That or do as somebody on FR suggested— wait for them to go low and then pass gas in their face. :p

Especialy if it's a "Chester to Molester Beer an Pickled Hard-Boiled Egg, 40 decibal one." LOL

61 posted on 11/10/2010 8:16:42 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: toldyou
On the plus side Sikhs HATE muslims.
62 posted on 11/10/2010 8:18:52 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 659 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: rawhide
A flight attendant friend is telling me that it's her belief that the cleaning crew's that come aboard the aircraft between flights do not go through security. As well as employees of the various business's inside the terminal that are beyond the security check points. If this proves to be true it is a major lapse of security.
63 posted on 11/10/2010 8:19:42 AM PST by Captain7seas
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To: null and void

WRONG!!! It is IONIZING radiation!!


64 posted on 11/10/2010 8:22:31 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Captain7seas

AFAIK it’s true. No need to focus on behind the scenes stuff if all you are doing is Kabuki theater.


65 posted on 11/10/2010 8:23:53 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 659 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: GeronL

Learn something new every day.


66 posted on 11/10/2010 8:24:37 AM PST by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: Renegade
WRONG!!! It is IONIZING radiation!!

Half wrong.

Some scanners are backscatter X-ray, some are Terahertz wave.

67 posted on 11/10/2010 8:25:40 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 659 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SeeSac
Considering that the radiation dose of the flight itself is about 100x higher than that of the scan, you might want to rethink taking your next flight!

Why add to it? Further you have air crews balking at the full body scan ... in part they're intrusive and in part because not enough is known about long term effects. Especially to those exposed to it on a ongoing basis.

68 posted on 11/10/2010 8:25:40 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: BossLady

Cosmic background radiation increases with increasing altitude. If you move to the coast, you will decrease your cosmic radiation dose by 1/2!


69 posted on 11/10/2010 8:26:02 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: BossLady
The airports were a pain even before all this Gestapo stuff.

If you have a round trip under 1500 miles, its just smarter to drive and spend a night at a hotel. Unless your a Muslim trying to make a statement, it makes no sense to fly these smaller trips.

70 posted on 11/10/2010 8:26:05 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: null and void

I can se them saying “ Door One or Door 2?”


71 posted on 11/10/2010 8:27:33 AM PST by Renegade
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To: donmeaker

I wish I never knew really.

Lot of sick people out there.


72 posted on 11/10/2010 8:27:38 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Renegade

Yeah. Flip a coin.


73 posted on 11/10/2010 8:28:54 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 659 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: GeronL
Lot of sick people out there.

No shortage what-so-ever. *sigh*

74 posted on 11/10/2010 8:30:03 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 659 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: PA-RIVER
If you have a round trip under 1500 miles, its just smarter to drive and spend a night at a hotel.

Time lost: 3 days.
Plane ticket: $350
Car and Gas and hotel: $1400
Speeding Ticket: $270

75 posted on 11/10/2010 8:30:24 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: rawhide
A flight attendant friend is telling me that it's her belief that the cleaning crew's that come aboard the aircraft between flights do not go through security. As well as employees of the various business's inside the terminal that are beyond the security check points. If this proves to be true it is a major lapse of security.
76 posted on 11/10/2010 8:30:34 AM PST by Captain7seas
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To: BluH2o
Why add to it?

Oh, so you worry about the mouse while the elephant tramples you. You priorities are misplaced.

77 posted on 11/10/2010 8:32:06 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: rawhide

this posting needs photos............


78 posted on 11/10/2010 8:32:10 AM PST by Lockbox (`)
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To: PA-RIVER

Actually....I have been checking out a train trip! The Coast Starlight, California Zephyr and the Sunset Limited looks fun!!!


79 posted on 11/10/2010 8:34:07 AM PST by BossLady (TSA Motto - Go on Vacation....Come back with Radiation!)
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To: SueRae

Call Israeli security experts and learn from them. They’ve offered us help for years. Why we haven’t taken Israel up on her offer of help Smells like all these Elitists in government. When the American people truly figure out whose destroying us, we’ll take care of business. November 2nd was just the beginning of cleansing the sewer. Exposure is what will destroy the enemies within.

Question number two is whose behind the cover up?


80 posted on 11/10/2010 8:35:10 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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