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To: butterdezillion
One, or more of three things are possible on Obama’s REAL birth certificate (assuming there is one):

Where born? — Hawaii, Kenya, Vancouver, somewhere else.....

Maternity? — Stanley Ann Dunham, Madeline Dunham, someone else.....

Paternity? — Obama Sr, Frank Marshall Davis, Malcolm X, Stanley Dunham, someone else.....

Anything is possible with this guy, and until his bona fides are released and examined by professional, qualified, forensic document examiners, we will NEVER KNOW.

It would be interesting to get Obama and his alleged family member's DNA.

132 posted on 11/10/2010 9:39:51 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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PART 1: The Story of Obama: All in The Company (Part I) Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has discovered CIA files that document the agency’s connections to institutions and individuals figuring prominently in the lives of Barack Obama and his mother, father, grandmother, and stepfather. The first part of his report highlights the connections between Barack Obama, Sr. and the CIA-sponsored operations in Kenya to counter rising Soviet and Chinese influence among student circles and, beyond, to create conditions obstructing the emergence of independent African leaders.

From 1983-84, Barack Obama worked as Editor at Business Internation Corporation, a Business International Corporation, a known CIA front company.

President Obama’s own work in 1983 for Business International Corporation, a CIA front that conducted seminars with the world’s most powerful leaders and used journalists as agents abroad, dovetails with CIA espionage activities conducted by his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham in 1960s post-coup Indonesia on behalf of a number of CIA front operations, including the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and the Ford Foundation. Dunham met and married Lolo Soetoro, Obama’s stepfather, at the East-West Center in 1965. Soetoro was recalled to Indonesia in 1965 to serve as a senior army officer and assist General Suharto and the CIA in the bloody overthrow of President Sukarno. Barack Obama, Sr., who met Dunham in 1959 in a Russian language class at the University of Hawaii, had been part of what was described as an airlift of 280 East African students to the United States to attend various colleges — merely “aided” by a grant from the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation, according to a September 12, 1960, Reuters report from London. The airlift was a CIA operation to train and indoctrinate future agents of influence in Africa, which was becoming a battleground between the United States and the Soviet Union and China for influence among newly-independent and soon-to-be independent countries on the continent...end snippet

134 posted on 11/10/2010 9:44:58 AM PST by riri
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To: Beckwith

The best available evidence is the birth announcements from the newspapers in 1961. Assuming those are legitimate announcements, then this rules out the paternity options.

Another possibility for the original birth certificate is that it is not signed by a doctor, but perhaps only signed by the mother or maybe only by the grandmother. If so, then the reliability of the claimed birth information is immediately questionable.

And one other possibility is that Obama was born ‘en route,’ meaning on a ship or airplane. The place of arrival, for such births, is listed as the place of birth. So if SAD sailed from Kenya or Indonesia to Hawaii when she was pregnant or soon after delivering the baby, she might said the baby was born en route, even though it may have actually been born in Kenya or Indonesia (remember that DOH Spokesbabe Okubo said if Obama was born in Bali, his COLB should say Bali?). A certificate for a baby born en route would probably have to be signed by a witness. In the absence of such a signature, then the certificate has no reliability. IOW, the original birth certificate might say Obama was born en route, and is registered as born in Honolulu, but is not signed by a witness and is not legal proof of birth. Years later, Obama files supplemental paperwork to “verify” he was born in Hawaii and is issued a new, but amended COLB. The likelihood is that he doctored the parts of the COLB showing he was born en route and can’t let anyone see the original certificate that is lacking proper authentification entries.


136 posted on 11/10/2010 9:57:42 AM PST by edge919
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