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To: WAW; metmom; trisham; BykrBayb; xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; DBeers; ...
It was an attempt to de-escalate with humor.

The left is trying to destroy our Republic and you think the answer is humor?

But there was another point to it. Gays didn’t just start signing up yesterday. And whether or not gays served in Washington’s army...Well, I’d rather not know about it.

First of all, in Washington's time homosexuality was a capital offense.

Secondly, as I said earlier, the fact that a law is being broken IS NOT a reason to legalize something; "it's happening anyway" is nothing more than the libertarian push for anarchy.

I think Gates is merely taking advantage of this situation. He found this issue thrust into his lap and he’s making his move for whatever is next.

NO, Gates is urging Congress to allow open homosexuality in the military.

He has chosen to see how well he fits in with this administration.

If he had integrity he would have resigned by now.

This is your personal agenda if you don’t see the big picture.

No, it isn't.

Much more integral to the principles of Conservatism is Rule of Law and the Rights of the Individual. The gays in the military issue is a much more ancillary issue. If you want to make the changes you seek you need to find the best arguments and make ‘em...and make ‘em heard by the people that count.

Spoken like a true libertarian, libertarians love to dismiss socially conservatism as ancillary.

If you can’t convince me, then I promise you, you are not going to be convincing to General or a Senator. You will find your whining falls on deaf ears.

I think your mistaken, I'm not actually trying to convince YOU of anything.

You have decided to make this personal and that also makes it part of your personal agenda.

No, that would be YOU.

164 posted on 11/08/2010 12:49:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

You mistake me even more than you mistake conservatism.

If it wasn’t funny, it wasn’t funny. But you need to check yourself. Mountains or molehills, buddy. I was trying to de-escalate this conversation...Nothing more, nothing less.

And you’re exactly right. In the times of yore in the Navy, a thief and a homosexual would be treated the same way, tied to the masthead and beaten to pieces.

I have no problem with that.

So, how do we get to this from here? Seriously. What is your enlightened suggestion?

I did not use the “it’s happening anyway” argument. Its stupid and I condemn it roundly when I see it.

I am saying that there are correct measures that can be taken to fight this.

Whining about it is not the answer.

And if I remember correctly, you started the name calling...You made it personal.

My suggestion...Don’t drink when you do this. Apparently, you’re an angry drunk and it’s unbecoming.


165 posted on 11/08/2010 1:00:01 PM PST by WAW (Which enumerated power?)
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