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To: Wuli
That was my point....black illegitimacy rate was already very high....8 times that of whites ...on record by Dept of Labor stats in 1963....before the Great Society and welfare as we know it

my question and guesses...were as to why?

and btw...having lived in black culture from Mississippi to Haiti to Sierra Leone to Jamaica and other “black” nations...it's an issue worldwide

folks here ascribe welfare to remove blame

when conservatives do that we are no different than the left are we

but still...why does the nuclear family not take hold the same?

i think the reasons are old and inherent from many many years of cultural isolation from before coming here

143 posted on 11/08/2010 8:42:35 AM PST by wardaddy (diversity is only good if you are young and unmarried and chasing women)
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To: wardaddy

“i think the reasons are old and inherent from many many years of cultural isolation from before coming here”

Yes - the big migration of blacks from the south to the mid-west and northeast after WWII WAS (statistically in the majority) from the most culturally isolated segments of southern blacks; those already least assimilated into even the successful segments of their own demographic in the south.

CULTURE. I believe, IS the biggest factor - not genetics.

Yes, in many parts of the world culture is as “inherited” as is the physical genetics, but I believe culture is even stronger than genetics.

Why? Because I have known TOO many individuals in too many segments of the American “black” population, both “African-American” and immigrants, and children of immigrants from Africa WHERE the cultural influences that contribute to large scale single-parent households were rejected. They rejected them because their inherited culture, from their families, strongly rejected them. I can’t believe that they have vastly different “genes”, physically, than their fellow blacks.

Even in this vast country, there may be a very generalized national culture, but the most influential cultural influences are those closest to us, those that most dominate our family, friends and peers. Those influences, for good or ill, can, in the extreme “isolate” us in the sense that they may not match some dominate norm.

And, yes, particularly in the case of an island nation, an isolated and dominate “bad” culture can become a self-perpetuating nightmare. What I have found, in my New York experience, is that the best Haitians have always left if they can (which, necessary for their own salvation or not, left fewer influences for change “back home”).


144 posted on 11/08/2010 11:18:59 AM PST by Wuli
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