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To: xzins

I just don’t want any scantron-like devices at all. Just too easy to say ‘oh, we found a whole box of stuff that wasn’t scanned’. And then you can have people looking at each one and deciding if a tiny scuff mark on a line is a valid vote or not.

There was no paper involved with the lever machines and those went ok for a long time. If the electronic ones could be audited by both sides and locked down like an ATM, I don’t think it would be a problem.


16 posted on 11/06/2010 5:23:53 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

I want a paper trail. Otherwise, you have no proof whatsoever of a person’s vote.

A scantron printed out from an electronic machine would not have scuff marks.

However, the other points about number of signatures matching number of ballots is critical.

Apparently, we’re going to have to go to a 3 person system for issuing ballots: 1 pub, 1 dem, 1 indy. All must verify each ballot issued. We’ve got to get rid of mail-in ballots altogether, except for our military.

We should not look like a banana republic when it comes to the validity of our elections.


20 posted on 11/06/2010 5:30:21 AM PDT by xzins (Freep-a-thon--Anyone can do a min of $10, OR you must believe in welfare, cause someone pays for you)
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To: Tolsti2
I just don’t want any scantron-like devices at all. Just too easy to say ‘oh, we found a whole box of stuff that wasn’t scanned’. And then you can have people looking at each one and deciding if a tiny scuff mark on a line is a valid vote or not.

There's a fix for that, you know.

23 posted on 11/06/2010 5:37:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Tolsti2

One never knows if the levers are working properly as there is nothing to check.

Our county seems to do fine with filling in ovals with black markers. Before you get to the booth, you have to show ID, verify address and sign the list. Then you’re given a ticket (red for Republicans, blue for Democrats, this time anyway) that you trade for a ballot. I guess they keep count that way, in case any ballots are “found”.

No one can touch your ballot; you have to put it in the scanner yourself. I spoiled one and had to give it to the Democrat and Republican ticket people. Then I had to fold it myself and put it in a spoiled ballot envelope. I can only surmise that a shredder isn’t allowed on the premises for appearance’s sake. I’ve never heard of anyone finding ballots here. Then again, this is a red county.


218 posted on 11/06/2010 11:19:04 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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