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To: TREGEN
NOT! Just like Your President, unless both his parents became US citizens BEFORE his birth, he is not a Natural Born Citizen....therefore just like Obama, He would not be eligable ...

Actually, the birther movement simply states that since Obama has not provided a birth certificate, he has not met the requirements to hold the office of President. Anything else is assuming that he even has one.

56 posted on 11/06/2010 4:14:28 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

“Actually, the birther movement simply states that since Obama has not provided a birth certificate[....]

No, that and the “birther” perjorative are disinformation being used to smear the reputations of anyone having the temerity to state the obvious and not so obvious.

Obama claims to be a dual citizen at birth with British and U.S. citizenship at birth. The Constitution’s natural born citizen requirement excludes from eligibility any person born with loyalty to a foreign sovereign, especially British.

Furthermore, no nation on the Earth recognized dual citizenship and divided loyalty at the time of the adoption of the U.S. Constitution. A little known fact is that the United States still does not recognize dual citizenship to this very day. The only reason a person gets away with claims of dual citizenship as a U.S. citizen is because of some late Supreme Court decisions denying the U.S. Government the ability to deny U.S. citizenship in some cases where a person exercises dual citizenship despite the U.S. statutes otherwise not recognizing dual citizenship. This has created a yet to be resolved conflict in the laws and a potential limbo status for some people attempting to claim dual citizenship in direct conflict with existing statutory law. See the Secretary of Stqate’s commentary on the risks of claiming dual citizenship and U.S. citizenship.

In addition to Obama’s natural born citizen requirement, there is also his potential problem with having any U.S. citizenship whatsoever. His mother was not old enoguh to confer her U.S. citizenship to her child, because she was a purported 18 year old child bride under international law and U.S. law requiring the father’s citizenship to prevail in such circumstances. So, the only way Obama could have been born with any U.S. citizenship is by being born within U.S. jurisdiction in accordance with the jus soli (birth on the soil) doctrine. If Obama was born on the soil of Hawaii, he would qualify by jus soli as a U.S. citizen, but he would still not qualify for the Constitutional requirement of a natural born citizen having two U.S. citizen parents at the time of his birth. This is because of the principle of being born with divided allegiance and divided loyalties. His father’s British citizenship made the child subject to the sovereign and allegiance requirements of Great Britain at birth no matter where the birth took place.

If Obama was born outside the jurisdiction of the United States, such as Kenya or Canada, then Obama was born without any U.S. citizenship whatsoever. Although the Hawaiian newspapers printed a birth announcement in August 1961, Obama could still have been born in Kenya at the Mombasa hospital if Madelyn Dunham or someone else supplied false information on the Hawaiian birth registration form while falsely claiming her daughter and daughter’s husband were lawful Hawaiian residents and/or citizens when the birth occurred outside of Hawaii. The newspapers published whatever appeared in the vital statistics report from the Department of Health. If a falsified out of state birth registration was filed, the newspapers would not know the difference.


75 posted on 11/06/2010 7:28:44 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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