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To: WhiskeyX
The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

By that "logic" the children, grand children, great grand children etc, in the male line, of an immigrant, can never become citizens. In fact, by that "logic," where every child has the same citizenship of their father, only those descended in an unbroken male line from citizens of the original 13 states are citizens, and the rest of the population are mere "inhabitants."

133 posted on 11/06/2010 8:22:50 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Pilsner

“By that “logic” the children, grand children, great grand children etc, in the male line, of an immigrant, can never become citizens.”

News Flash-The United States has immigration laws which allow people to become naturalized citizens!


136 posted on 11/06/2010 8:37:41 PM PDT by chatter4
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To: Pilsner

The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.
By that “logic” the children, grand children, great grand children etc, in the male line, of an immigrant, can never become citizens. In fact, by that “logic,” where every child has the same citizenship of their father, only those descended in an unbroken male line from citizens of the original 13 states are citizens, and the rest of the population are mere “inhabitants.”

It would be true if there were no provisions for expatriation and naturalization, but there are such provisions in the United States of america.

Did you know that each state of the United States of America was responsible for legislating its own naturalization laws from the time of the Declaration of Independence until the Federal Government superceded them with uniform naturalization laws in the mid-19th Century? A foreign immigrant became a naturalized U.S. citizen by naturalizing as a citizen of one of the States of the United States of America.

In ore-revolutionary France and other nations the law in some circumstances did deny French citizenship to children born in France with fathers who were not French citzens and unable to become French citizens. upon death their estates were escheat to the French Crown, with their children unable to inherit their father’s estate. The same stiuation exists today in some nations around the world. Some inhabitants and their descendants are nationals but not citizens.


140 posted on 11/06/2010 9:36:16 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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