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To: WhiskeyX; McGavin999; All

“That’s fine, but you don’t use foreign sources to try to prove a point about the US Constitution”


Vattel was one important “foreign source”

“In order be of the country, it is NECESSARY that a person be born of a FATHER who is a CITIZEN”

... “for if he is born there of a STRANGER, it will be ONLY the PLACE of his birth, and NOT HIS COUNTRY.”

Here is a letter from Franklin that outlins the high regard in whech Vattel was held, as follows:

Ben Franklin:

“I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of VATTEL. It came to us in good season when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary FREQUENTLY to CONSULT the LAW OF NATIONS. Accordingly, that copy which I KEPT, (after depositing one in our own public library here, and sending the other to the college of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed) has been CONTINUALLY in the HAND of the MEMBERS of our CONGRESS, now sitting, who are much PLEASED with your notes and preface, and have ENTERTAINED a HIGH and JUST ESTEEM for their author”

(Emphases mine)

You might also find this of interest, as follows:

George Washington’s library book returned, 221 years later

Book on international affairs that first US president borrowed in 1789 finally replaced.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/booksblog/2010/may/20/george-washington-library-book

STE=Q


120 posted on 11/06/2010 5:54:00 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q

outlins = outlines

whech = which

STE=Q


122 posted on 11/06/2010 5:59:00 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q

Yes, that is why I’ve always been amused by the people trying to claim the founding Fathers didn’t have acccess to Vatel’s work or could not read it in French. The news article about the return of Vatel’s book appeared in the news the day after just such a discussion and argument. Of course, the facts made no dent in their beliefs and they continue the false arguments.


123 posted on 11/06/2010 6:01:25 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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